In a message dated 12/30/2002 1:10:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > What you are > > > saying is EXACTLY what I and others have been saying. When I and others > say > > > or allude to the fact that mathematics existed before the dawn of time > > Actually he is quite correct. You are imposing a human element to natural > occurances, which is erroneous. You are speaking about a completely > separate issue of 'concepts' and 'measures', a human > invention. As Geraldine used to say -- "What you see is what you get!" (Probably a wow should be added to that. ;-)) The human mind is only capable of perceiving what the human mind can perceive. Language is a human invention and mathematics and numbers are a human invention. The human mind seems incapable of living with chaos and imposes order on the world around it. But making the leap that the order we impose on nature is an order that is inherently a part of that nature, is quite a leap. Does a color blind person see color? The human mind can only perceive what the human mind is capable of perceiving. And as quantum physics has shown us the observer cannot be separated from the observing process. In other words, the observing process is not necessarily the same as that which is being observed. (Or as WW put it described.) Doe aka Marnie ;-)
