I guess my age is showing, but since I date back to the period when there
was no such thing as a meter in or on a camera, much less TTL metering, I
can't understand why so many here are complaining about having to use either
open aperture metering, or the even simpler method of using a separate hand
held meter.  I have both a Minolta IIIF and a Gossen Digisix.  The Digisix
offers an optional accessory to enable the meter to be used on the hot shoe.
You remember of course, the old selenium meters that offered the same
function.

Bill

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: Introducing the remarkable new Pentax *Ist D


> You could always buy a Canon DSLR while keeping your current film
equipment.
> Then you wouldn't be able to accidently try to mount a digital lens on a
> film SLR.
>
> At 08:21 PM 9/28/03 +0100, you wrote:
> >This is exactly what I mean by backwards capability.
> >
> >For a long time I could use any k mount lens on any k mount body. The
> >introduction of teh crippled k mount stoped me using older lenses on new
> >bodies without significant compromises in metering capability.
> >
> >Now the introduction of these new lenses tailored for the smaller ccd
sensor
> >means that if I buy the new Pentax DA 80 -200 f/2.8 or whatever killer
lens
> >gets launched, then I can only use it on digital Pentax bodies and can't
put
> >it on my LX or MZ-S and get acceptable results.
> >
> >This gives me 3 choices:-
> >
> >Stick with my existing film based system and forget about digital because
> >most of my current lenses won't work on a digital body and any new DA
lenses
> >won't work on my film based cameras.
> >
> >Buy a second digital Pentax system to go along with my currrent stuff and
> >accept the compatability issues, so I can only use some lenses with some
> >bodies.
> >
> >Sell all the Pentax stuff and start again.
> >
> >I'm not particularly happy with any of the choices.
> >
> >Peter
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 4:52 PM
> >Subject: Re: Introducing the remarkable new Pentax *Ist D
> >
> >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Peter Jordan"
> > > Subject: Re: Introducing the remarkable new Pentax *Ist D
> > >
> > >
> > > > It says in the press release, "The image circle in the DA-series
lenses
> >is
> > > > designed to perfectly match the size of the CCD (23.5mm x 15.7mm)
> > > > incorporated in PENTAX's digital SLRs, optimizing the performance of
> >these
> > > > cameras."
> > > >
> > > > My reading of that means that the image circle will be smaler than
the
> > > > dimensions  of  35mm film, meaning that they can't be used on film
> >bodies.
> > > >
> > > > Am I missing something here or is this the end of backwards
> >compatibility?
> > >
> > > It means that the DA lenses won't be usable on film cameras, unless
you
> > > don't mind some vignetting.
> > > In some respects, it makes sense to have lenses specifically for the
> >digital
> > > format, in others it doesn't. From a design POV, they can make quality
> > > lenses cheaper for the smaller image circle, since it is easier to
make a
> > > good lens with a smaller circle.
> > > Thats why lenses like the FA77mm only cost a thousand dollars, while a
> > > Rodenstock 210mm of similar quality for 4x5 costs a few grand.
> > > I can't see the lenses being any smaller, since they are still K mount
> > > lenses, and there are size restrictions based on that.
> > >
> > > William Robb
> > >
>
> I drink to make other people interesting.
>          -- George Jean Nathan
>


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