Cossina/Voigtlander mnakes a small averaging meter that mounts on the hot shoe. I think it was originally intended for screwmount Leicas, but it's a great little meter. Very accurate, very small. About an inch high and an inch and a half square. I use it with my Leica all the time. You can find it on ebay for a hundred bucks or so. Paul Stenquist
Bill Owens wrote: > > I guess my age is showing, but since I date back to the period when there > was no such thing as a meter in or on a camera, much less TTL metering, I > can't understand why so many here are complaining about having to use either > open aperture metering, or the even simpler method of using a separate hand > held meter. I have both a Minolta IIIF and a Gossen Digisix. The Digisix > offers an optional accessory to enable the meter to be used on the hot shoe. > You remember of course, the old selenium meters that offered the same > function. > > Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 6:30 PM > Subject: Re: Introducing the remarkable new Pentax *Ist D > > > You could always buy a Canon DSLR while keeping your current film > equipment. > > Then you wouldn't be able to accidently try to mount a digital lens on a > > film SLR. > > > > At 08:21 PM 9/28/03 +0100, you wrote: > > >This is exactly what I mean by backwards capability. > > > > > >For a long time I could use any k mount lens on any k mount body. The > > >introduction of teh crippled k mount stoped me using older lenses on new > > >bodies without significant compromises in metering capability. > > > > > >Now the introduction of these new lenses tailored for the smaller ccd > sensor > > >means that if I buy the new Pentax DA 80 -200 f/2.8 or whatever killer > lens > > >gets launched, then I can only use it on digital Pentax bodies and can't > put > > >it on my LX or MZ-S and get acceptable results. > > > > > >This gives me 3 choices:- > > > > > >Stick with my existing film based system and forget about digital because > > >most of my current lenses won't work on a digital body and any new DA > lenses > > >won't work on my film based cameras. > > > > > >Buy a second digital Pentax system to go along with my currrent stuff and > > >accept the compatability issues, so I can only use some lenses with some > > >bodies. > > > > > >Sell all the Pentax stuff and start again. > > > > > >I'm not particularly happy with any of the choices. > > > > > >Peter > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 4:52 PM > > >Subject: Re: Introducing the remarkable new Pentax *Ist D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Peter Jordan" > > > > Subject: Re: Introducing the remarkable new Pentax *Ist D > > > > > > > > > > > > > It says in the press release, "The image circle in the DA-series > lenses > > >is > > > > > designed to perfectly match the size of the CCD (23.5mm x 15.7mm) > > > > > incorporated in PENTAX's digital SLRs, optimizing the performance of > > >these > > > > > cameras." > > > > > > > > > > My reading of that means that the image circle will be smaler than > the > > > > > dimensions of 35mm film, meaning that they can't be used on film > > >bodies. > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something here or is this the end of backwards > > >compatibility? > > > > > > > > It means that the DA lenses won't be usable on film cameras, unless > you > > > > don't mind some vignetting. > > > > In some respects, it makes sense to have lenses specifically for the > > >digital > > > > format, in others it doesn't. From a design POV, they can make quality > > > > lenses cheaper for the smaller image circle, since it is easier to > make a > > > > good lens with a smaller circle. > > > > Thats why lenses like the FA77mm only cost a thousand dollars, while a > > > > Rodenstock 210mm of similar quality for 4x5 costs a few grand. > > > > I can't see the lenses being any smaller, since they are still K mount > > > > lenses, and there are size restrictions based on that. > > > > > > > > William Robb > > > > > > > > I drink to make other people interesting. > > -- George Jean Nathan > >
