On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Andre Langevin wrote:

> DJE wrote:
> 
> >SMC/S-T 35/2.0 is a quite good wide angle.  The 35/3.5 looks like a cheap
> >"beginner" lens and is not nearly as good.
> 
> I am a bit surprised by your evaluation here.  Have you used a SMCT 
> 35/3.5 in your comparison? I find the K 35/3.5 (supposedly identical 
> to the SMCT 35/3.5) superior to the K35/2 (supposedly identical to 
> the SMCT 35/2) as far as flare and resolution are concerned.

I'm a bit surprised by the results of my testing, I'll admit, given that 
it should be easy to build a good 35/3.5 and much harder to build a good
35/2.0.  

However, the 35/3.5 was the least sharp 35mm prime I tested in both center 
and corners, only achieving parity at f/8.0.  In general other 35s were
equally sharp at a stop wider aperture than the 35/3.5.  Of course most
of them also open at least a stop wider!

This was the Super Takumar and not Super-Multi-Coated Takumar version, 
which is probably why the more modern 35mms I tested against it did 
better.  On the other hand, in my testing the non-SMC 35/f2.0 was sharper 
across most apertures.

This is NOT TO SAY that the 35/3.5 Super Takumar is a bad lens. 
It outperforms the Pentax A and M zooms I tested it against in that 
focal length range, and probably most other zooms as well.
By f/8.0 it is competitive with many other wide-angle lenses.
Note also that I'm testing for sharpness/contrast, not bokeh, distortion,
or any of the other sometimes subtle properties that give a lens its 
"look".  "Flare" in my mind is something that describes how a lens handles
light coming in at difficult angles, which is also not something I tested.

I suspect that the 35/3.5 was a "beginner" lens because in its day 35mm
was the standard wide-angle focal length, the one recommended by Keppler
in his "Asahi Pentax Way" as a first wide-angle.  It appears to have been 
felt back then that wider lenses were too obviously distorted.
Nikon also made 35/3.5 and 35/2.8 kinds of lenses back then that were 
small and cheap and they have only mediocre reputations in the Nikon 
community, also probably as "first wide angles".  Nikon also made
a 35/2.0 for years, just like Pentax.
Gerjan's book says that the front element of the 35/3.5 was NEVER 
multi-coated, even in the SMC Takumar version, which also suggests
that it was a "bargain starter" lens for Pentax.  (That's also why
I don't have an SMC 35/3.5 to test, given that I've already got
a non-smc one.  I don't have an SMC-T 35/2.0 because I can't find one!)

The existance of the 35/2.0 by itself makes me wonder how Pentax felt
about the 35/3.5.  They didn't in the same era make more than one
concurrent version of the 24 or 28, but they made 2 35/2.0 designs and had 
them availible alongside the 35/3.5 for years.

I could always have a bad sample, too.  

DJE

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