You are... Holy. I am... Evil. I'm sorry to have disagreed with you.

Regards,
Bob...
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Politically incorrect sig line deleted to prevent
"socialists, statists, elitists and weekend golfers
[you know who you are] from receiving
discomforting enlightenment."
 -Larry Elders

From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Bob Blakely wrote:
>
> > This all started out as a question of the morality of taking certain
> > photos - reasonably on topic.
> >
> > It quickly evolved to include  a question of legality of taking certain
> > photos - still reasonably on topic.
> >
> > With Chris Brogden, it morphed into surveillance and rights - on topic?
> > Questionable.
> >     but I followed.
> >
> > He further introduced the US Patriot Act and the thread went entirely
off
> > topic, but again, I followed.
> >
> > Now this fellow wants to discuss the 2000 US presidential election!
> >
> > Group, I'm sorry I followed Chris down this insipid path. I quit now. If
> > anyone wants to discuss this or any other off topic subject off-line,
you've
> > got my e-mail address.
>
> Sorry, Bob.  I had no idea my evil Canadian schemes would cause you to
> stray from your always-on-topic, never-political ways.  Looks like I'm The
> Man Who Corrupted Bob.
>
> This whole thing started innocently enough <insert birds chirping> when
> Bob suggested that people take responsibility for their actions while in
> public, and that it was ok for photos of them to be circulated.  I pointed
> out that this was a dangerous road, and if it's ok for a member of the
> general public to record and publish photos of others without their
> knowledge or permission, then what's to stop the government from doing the
> same thing?  Bob responded by saying, correctly enough, that they already
> record people without their permission and, often, knowledge.  Then he
> argued that that was ok, since the government doesn't have the right to
> abuse that power.  I called him to task on that statement, as the Patriot
> Act *does* give the US government increased powers to infringe further on
> its citizens' civil liberties and rights.  US citizens, for example, can
> be detained indefinitely without being charged because they now can be
> labelled as "enemy combatants."  In any case, I've said most of what I
> want to say about this topic.  If US citizens don't care that their
> government is granting itself more and more authority to pry into their
> daily lives, then why should I?
>
> Heading out to take photos of snow while the back bacon fries,

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