You are... Holy. I am... Evil. I'm sorry to have disagreed with you. Regards, Bob... ------------------------------------------ Politically incorrect sig line deleted to prevent "socialists, statists, elitists and weekend golfers [you know who you are] from receiving discomforting enlightenment." -Larry Elders
From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Bob Blakely wrote: > > > This all started out as a question of the morality of taking certain > > photos - reasonably on topic. > > > > It quickly evolved to include a question of legality of taking certain > > photos - still reasonably on topic. > > > > With Chris Brogden, it morphed into surveillance and rights - on topic? > > Questionable. > > but I followed. > > > > He further introduced the US Patriot Act and the thread went entirely off > > topic, but again, I followed. > > > > Now this fellow wants to discuss the 2000 US presidential election! > > > > Group, I'm sorry I followed Chris down this insipid path. I quit now. If > > anyone wants to discuss this or any other off topic subject off-line, you've > > got my e-mail address. > > Sorry, Bob. I had no idea my evil Canadian schemes would cause you to > stray from your always-on-topic, never-political ways. Looks like I'm The > Man Who Corrupted Bob. > > This whole thing started innocently enough <insert birds chirping> when > Bob suggested that people take responsibility for their actions while in > public, and that it was ok for photos of them to be circulated. I pointed > out that this was a dangerous road, and if it's ok for a member of the > general public to record and publish photos of others without their > knowledge or permission, then what's to stop the government from doing the > same thing? Bob responded by saying, correctly enough, that they already > record people without their permission and, often, knowledge. Then he > argued that that was ok, since the government doesn't have the right to > abuse that power. I called him to task on that statement, as the Patriot > Act *does* give the US government increased powers to infringe further on > its citizens' civil liberties and rights. US citizens, for example, can > be detained indefinitely without being charged because they now can be > labelled as "enemy combatants." In any case, I've said most of what I > want to say about this topic. If US citizens don't care that their > government is granting itself more and more authority to pry into their > daily lives, then why should I? > > Heading out to take photos of snow while the back bacon fries,

