ok so i did some testing.

using my fa 135 2.8, i took six pictures 3 with the tiffen filter and 3
without. i am posting one set of results, but all three sets were basically
the same.

with the filter: http://www.xdstech.com/istd/with_filter.jpg

without the filter: http://www.xdstech.com/istd/without_filter.jpg

i could not believe my eyes.

arnie

ps the picture were taken handheld, so they are fuzzy.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: another istD issue


> On Fri, 2003-12-26 at 04:01, Jostein wrote:
> > Quoting Anthony Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > That's a "ghost image", a reflection from the front surface of one of
your
> > > lens elements onto the rear surface of the filter, and then back
through the
> > > lens in parallel with the desired image.  It is most pronounced when a
lens
> > > has any uncoated elements, or the filter is uncoated.
> >
> > I thought ghosting between the front element and a filter would produce
a
> > reflection with the same orientation as the reflected object?
>
> No this is definately a ghost image from the filter.  The CCD (or film)
> doesn't act as a mirror, but diffusely reflects some light back towards
> the front of the lens.  This light travels back through the lens system
> along the same path that it originally did, bounces off the filter
> (which is acting as a mirror and creates the inversion of the images)
> and is reformed on the CCD after another trip through the lens.  In this
> case, things are made worse because the lens is wide open, allowing most
> of the rays relfected from the filter to be recaptured.
>
> -Scott
>


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