Bruce Dayton wrote:
> 
> Did anyone notice a recent change in the look of ebay - specifically
> on the feedback page.  More usable and sortable for the feedback.  I'm
> not quite sure when it went in to effect, but, changes like that could
> perhaps account for some odd problems elsewhere.  Obviously,
> programming changes have occurred.  Maybe Paul is a victim of Ebay
> bugs.
> 
> Bruce

YUp - feedback page change caused some errors
getting on and loading
today - very annoying... everytime they make
things better they get
worse. 

Paul, gosh - that sucks. but could be a hacker as
someone said.
Did you try contacting SAFE HARBOR?

annsan


> 
> Wednesday, January 14, 2004, 2:11:25 PM, you wrote:
> 
> MWMK> My question may be:  Is there a hack in the ebay system that allows
> MWMK> "buyers" to trick ebay into thinking they won a BIN when it wasn't BIN?
> 
> MWMK> Second question:  Did you examine the headers of the email to be sure
> MWMK> they came from ebay?
> 
> MWMK> IL Bill
> MWMK> On Wednesday, January 14, 2004, at 04:00 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
> >> I'm the seller. And I'm scrupulous :-). My complaint is that ebay
> >> accepted a "buy it
> >> now" bid, and this was not a buy it now auction.
> >>
> >> "Rothman, Aric" wrote:
> >>
> >>> If you get no satisfaction, would you share the eBay ID of the seller?
> >>> It's good to know from who to say away.
> >>>
> >>> There is a serious flaw in the feedback system at eBay.  Unscrupulous
> >>> sellers can hold you as a feedback "hostage."  That is to say, they
> >>> will
> >>> not supply feedback to a completed transaction until you do.  That
> >>> way,
> >>> they can retaliate with negative feedback if they swindle you and you
> >>> leave negative feedback for them.
> >>>
> >>> One eBay seller (and sizeable brick and mortar dealer) is Zeff Photo.
> >>>  Last time
> >>> I checked, they have 100% positive feedback.  They shouldn't.  I
> >>> purchased
> >>> a Bronica EC with lens from them, and paid immediately using a method
> >>> they would
> >>> accept.  That should equate to immediate positive feedback for me.  I
> >>> held
> >>> up my end of the transaction.  The camera and lens has several
> >>> immediately obvious
> >>> defects not disclosed, and it locked up after a few shutter triggers.
> >>> I obtained return authorization and had it shipped back via FedEx.  I
> >>> was
> >>> contacted a few days later and was informed the damage was due to
> >>> RETURN trip
> >>> to Zeff, and I would have to make a claim.  Since I am not aware of
> >>> any temporal
> >>> anomalies in the vicinity which would cause damage manifest a few
> >>> days earlier
> >>> to have a cause several days later, I was skeptical, to say the least.
> >>>
> >>> Long story short, I got a refund, but not for the significant
> >>> shipping charges
> >>> accumulated during the whole ordeal.  Their eBay guy told me I was
> >>> "lucky" and he
> >>> was "doing me a favor."  Some favor, to the tune of $45 lost to
> >>> unnecessary shipping
> >>> expense
> >>>
> >>> Zeff Photo has a good reputation, but the guy
> >>> who managed the eBay department did not give me a square deal, and he
> >>> engages in
> >>> this feedback withholding strategy I describe. I am in feedback limbo
> >>> with them.
> >>>
> >>> Aric
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:45 PM
> >>>> To: pentax discuss
> >>>> Subject: OT: A bizarre ebay experience.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm very POed at ebay. Among other items, I listed a Spotmatic Motor
> >>>> Drive camera and 50mm lens on ebay the other night. I set a
> >>>> first bid of
> >>>> $375 and did not specifiy a buy it now price or a reserve.
> >>>> Last night I
> >>>> received a notice that the camera had been purchased on a buy
> >>>> it now bid
> >>>> by someone in Japan. I have tried replying to the ebay message to
> >>>> indicate that there is some kind of mistake. I've filed a report with
> >>>> their mediation service, and I've written the purported
> >>>> buyer. All to no
> >>>> avail. I've heard from no one, and my auction has been down for
> >>>> almost
> >>>> 20 hours. What's more, a list member had hoped to purchase the camera
> >>>> and had planned to bid on the last day. I don't know how to resolve
> >>>> this.
> >>>>
> >>

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