You can relist, but you're still gonna owe them the listing fee and
their cut on the purchase price. I'd send an two emails a day, and then
4 emails a day, and then an email an hour, etc. until I got a response.
They need to clear it up for you.

Jeff.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 5:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A bizarre ebay experience.


Yes, I filed a complaint with Safe Harbor. But thus far I haven't heard 
from anyone. I may just relist. The alleged buyer has not contacted me. 
Perhaps he only meant to place a first bid in order to track the 
auction.

On Jan 14, 2004, at 6:42 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> Bruce Dayton wrote:
>>
>> Did anyone notice a recent change in the look of ebay - specifically 
>> on the feedback page.  More usable and sortable for the feedback.  
>> I'm not quite sure when it went in to effect, but, changes like that 
>> could perhaps account for some odd problems elsewhere.  Obviously, 
>> programming changes have occurred.  Maybe Paul is a victim of Ebay 
>> bugs.
>>
>> Bruce
>
> YUp - feedback page change caused some errors
> getting on and loading
> today - very annoying... everytime they make
> things better they get
> worse.
>
> Paul, gosh - that sucks. but could be a hacker as
> someone said.
> Did you try contacting SAFE HARBOR?
>
> annsan
>
>
>>
>> Wednesday, January 14, 2004, 2:11:25 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> MWMK> My question may be:  Is there a hack in the ebay system that
>> allows
>> MWMK> "buyers" to trick ebay into thinking they won a BIN when it
>> wasn't BIN?
>>
>> MWMK> Second question:  Did you examine the headers of the email to
>> be sure
>> MWMK> they came from ebay?
>>
>> MWMK> IL Bill
>> MWMK> On Wednesday, January 14, 2004, at 04:00 PM, Paul Stenquist
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> I'm the seller. And I'm scrupulous :-). My complaint is that ebay 
>>>> accepted a "buy it now" bid, and this was not a buy it now auction.
>>>>
>>>> "Rothman, Aric" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you get no satisfaction, would you share the eBay ID of the
>>>>> seller?
>>>>> It's good to know from who to say away.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a serious flaw in the feedback system at eBay.
>>>>> Unscrupulous
>>>>> sellers can hold you as a feedback "hostage."  That is to say,
they
>>>>> will
>>>>> not supply feedback to a completed transaction until you do.  That
>>>>> way,
>>>>> they can retaliate with negative feedback if they swindle you and 
>>>>> you
>>>>> leave negative feedback for them.
>>>>>
>>>>> One eBay seller (and sizeable brick and mortar dealer) is Zeff
>>>>> Photo.
>>>>>  Last time
>>>>> I checked, they have 100% positive feedback.  They shouldn't.  I
>>>>> purchased
>>>>> a Bronica EC with lens from them, and paid immediately using a 
>>>>> method
>>>>> they would
>>>>> accept.  That should equate to immediate positive feedback for me.

>>>>>  I
>>>>> held
>>>>> up my end of the transaction.  The camera and lens has several
>>>>> immediately obvious
>>>>> defects not disclosed, and it locked up after a few shutter 
>>>>> triggers.
>>>>> I obtained return authorization and had it shipped back via FedEx.

>>>>>  I
>>>>> was
>>>>> contacted a few days later and was informed the damage was due to
>>>>> RETURN trip
>>>>> to Zeff, and I would have to make a claim.  Since I am not aware
of
>>>>> any temporal
>>>>> anomalies in the vicinity which would cause damage manifest a few
>>>>> days earlier
>>>>> to have a cause several days later, I was skeptical, to say the 
>>>>> least.
>>>>>
>>>>> Long story short, I got a refund, but not for the significant 
>>>>> shipping charges accumulated during the whole ordeal.  Their eBay 
>>>>> guy told me I was "lucky" and he
>>>>> was "doing me a favor."  Some favor, to the tune of $45 lost to
>>>>> unnecessary shipping
>>>>> expense
>>>>>
>>>>> Zeff Photo has a good reputation, but the guy
>>>>> who managed the eBay department did not give me a square deal, and
>>>>> he
>>>>> engages in
>>>>> this feedback withholding strategy I describe. I am in feedback 
>>>>> limbo
>>>>> with them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Aric
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:45 PM
>>>>>> To: pentax discuss
>>>>>> Subject: OT: A bizarre ebay experience.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm very POed at ebay. Among other items, I listed a Spotmatic
>>>>>> Motor
>>>>>> Drive camera and 50mm lens on ebay the other night. I set a
>>>>>> first bid of
>>>>>> $375 and did not specifiy a buy it now price or a reserve.
>>>>>> Last night I
>>>>>> received a notice that the camera had been purchased on a buy
>>>>>> it now bid
>>>>>> by someone in Japan. I have tried replying to the ebay message to
>>>>>> indicate that there is some kind of mistake. I've filed a report 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> their mediation service, and I've written the purported
>>>>>> buyer. All to no
>>>>>> avail. I've heard from no one, and my auction has been down for
>>>>>> almost
>>>>>> 20 hours. What's more, a list member had hoped to purchase the 
>>>>>> camera
>>>>>> and had planned to bid on the last day. I don't know how to 
>>>>>> resolve
>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>


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