>In a message dated 2/21/2004 9:16:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Without a lot more information than I have, I feel there is nothing more I 
could 
say about the photo that is meaningful. Which is my point, a critique to be 
meaningful has to be about the photo being critiqued. Yes, I said something 
that 
could be interpreted as changes, but I was actually talking about the effect 
of 
something in the photo, that is different than telling the photographer to 
change it. Hopefully, after reading the above, he will have some idea of how 
what he was trying to do worked. It may have been perfect, for all I know, he 
>might have been trying for just that ambiguality that bothers me.


I think, graywolf, you may be expecting too much in terms of verbiage from 
others.

Others may think they are saying that, saying things your way -- reacting to 
and/or analyzing the content of the photo, but it doesn't across to you that 
way. From what I gather you are saying, it comes across to you that they are 
saying that the photographer should have taken a completely different photograph.

I feel we do not all express ourselves at that same degree of skill level. 
Some of us may be rather inarticulate or find it hard how to phrase things when 
viewing a photo. It is visual and an emotional experience, after all, and 
words are sometimes hard to find to fit our reactions and responses. So some may 
zoom in on cropping, some may zoom in on technical aspects, some may zoom in on 
composition. But I feel they are trying to say this does or doesn't work for 
me, because... And maybe they are not always nailing down the because because 
it is hard to do. It's hard to say why we respond favorably or not.

And, personally, I don't expect myself to always express myself well. I am 
lucky when I do. :-)

So if I ask for comments from others, I will take them in the vein they are 
offered. Meaning to be helpful. Longer sentences from some, shorter from 
others. Some highly articulate, some not. Some concise, some not. Some nailing down 
some technical aspect that could be better, some not. Some giving a more vague 
reaction about content, some being very specific about content.

I don't really think there is a right or wrong way to do it. We do what we 
can, or we keep our mouths shut. And I feel I cannot demand that people critique 
my photos (which I haven't offered yet, but will) in only one certain way.

Despite all, there will always be SOMEONE who gets what I was trying to do 
regardless of  any technically bad aspects (or anything else, for that matter).

Marnie aka Doe 

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