how to end this thread: "Antonio, You are so right! I hadn't seen the errors of my ways. Without your constand attention to Microsoft Windows vulnerabilities I would be completely lost in a pile of viruses, spyware and hijackers. Thank you so much for educating me. Now i will throw out my Windows computers and run out and buy Macs to replace them. Thank you again. I will be forever in your debt. Keep up the good work and make sure you continue to state the failings of Microsoft and the virtues of Macintosh."
Christian -----Original Message----- From: Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Jul 6, 2004 3:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Windows Scob virus collects passwords, financial data; Macintosh unaffected There's no malevolent body of twits investing their time to destroy either of these cars. Didn't you understand that a malevolent body of twits investing their time to destroy was the major point of the argument? No? Everyone else did. Regards, Bob... From: "Antonio Aparicio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Bob, > > If your only reply to the very seriuous securityh issue facing most of > the worlds (Windows) computers is to point to maket share numbers, then > I am afraid you are further removed from reality than I had thought. > Market share and security are not the same thing. A car analogy for > you. Volvo are a lot more secure than say Ford. But ford have a greater > market share. > > Antonio > > On 6 Jul 2004, at 19:53, Bob Blakely wrote: > > > Jostein, it's no use yacking back to him. Antonio has no sense of > > what's > > really happening, and he never will. Due to his own blind spots, he is > > incapable of understanding the following: > > > > 1. Windows (client) has a 93.8% share of the market > > 2. Mac & Linux are each about 3% of the market. > > > > http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml? > > articleID=15202215 > > > > Now if someone is a cracker ass out to bring folks computers to their > > knees > > shouting uncle so that you can claim credit (via pseudonym, of course), > > which operating system is he going to target? Hint: Everyone on this > > list > > knows this, save the fool. > > > > Only an fool would claim that a Mac or Linux system is inherently more > > safe > > than a Windows system. The number of attempted attacks on them is > > paltry at > > best. It's easy to say you have the fastest hotrod in town when you've > > never > > really raced. > > > > Do you want to be more secure? Well then, buy that MAC or Linux > > operating > > system and be glad that everyone else isn't using it. That's what > > keeps you > > safe. But remember, the same thing that keeps you safe is what's > > responsible > > for the difference in software shelf space devoted to Windows vs. MAC > > and > > Linux together. So don't whine about lack of software diversity, my > > Mac & > > Linux friends, it's the visible sign of the very thing that keeps you > > relatively virus free - lack of market share. > > > > Remember: "It is impossible to make anything fool- proof because fools > > are > > so ingenious.." - unknown. > > > > Regards, > > Bob... > > ------------------------ > > "The heart of a fool is in his mouth, but the mouth of a wise man is > > in his > > heart." - Benjamin Franklin > > > > From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >> Please, antonio, > >> Quote my arrogant statements. And since you say "again", please quote > >> my > >> previous arrogant statements too, if you can. I'd like to learn from > >> my > >> mistakes. > >> > >> Quoting Antonio Aparicio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > >>> Jostein, > >>> > >>> I think the arrogance and abuse (yet again) is all yours. Not to > >>> mention the flames. All I did was pass on the information. > >>> > >>> Cmon Jostein, any other product would be pulled from the market on > >>> safety grounds by now, not to mention trade descriptions/not fit for > >>> the purpose for which it was sold! - and yet with Windows we have > >>> 1,000s of viruses, trojans, etc. etc., all of which apparently the > >>> responsibility of the user acording to your argument. If anyone falls > >>> foul then it is their fault for not not downloading the latest fix > >>> from > >>> Microsoft .... nice thinkiing. I guess that is how you build and > >>> maintain a monopoly. > >>> > >>> Antonio > >>> > >>> On 6 Jul 2004, at 14:36, Jostein wrote: > >>> > >>>> Please, mr. Aparicio. > >>>> > >>>> What an arrogant way to present "helpful information". > >>>> > >>>> By the time such information reaches your sources (whatever "The > >>>> Syracuse > >>>> Post-Standard" may be), most sensible windows users have updated > >>>> their > >>>> systems > >>>> a long time ago. Please don't act like a smartass on operating > >>>> systems > >>>> you're > >>>> not fully familiar with. It's only stuff to fuel flame wars with. > >>>> > >>>> Jostein > >>>> > >>>> PS. FYI, the Scob Trojan was first observed in the wild 25. June > >>>> (which is *two* > >>>> weeks ago), and the Microsoft update available about 20 hours later. > >>>> Which > >>>> means that all *legal* copies of Microsoft Windows operating systems > >>>> could be > >>>> patched within a week after that, depending on the update frequency. > >>>> Companies not updating their platforms can of course be caught pants > >>>> down any > >>>> day. > >>>> > >>>> Quoting Antonio Aparicio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>>> > >>>>> For those on the list who beleive windows is safe: > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- > >> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > >> > >> > > > > >
