Damn.... didn't work Christian
-----Original Message----- From: Antonio Aparicio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Jul 6, 2004 4:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Windows Scob virus collects passwords, financial data; Macintosh unaffected Christian, Interesting. Why the need to end this particlar thread? Antonio On 6 Jul 2004, at 22:18, Christian wrote: > how to end this thread: > > "Antonio, You are so right! I hadn't seen the errors of my ways. > Without your constand attention to Microsoft Windows vulnerabilities I > would be completely lost in a pile of viruses, spyware and hijackers. > Thank you so much for educating me. Now i will throw out my Windows > computers and run out and buy Macs to replace them. Thank you again. > I will be forever in your debt. Keep up the good work and make sure > you continue to state the failings of Microsoft and the virtues of > Macintosh." > > Christian > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Jul 6, 2004 3:55 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: OT: Windows Scob virus collects passwords, financial > data; Macintosh unaffected > > There's no malevolent body of twits investing their time to destroy > either > of these cars. Didn't you understand that a malevolent body of twits > investing their time to destroy was the major point of the argument? > No? > Everyone else did. > > Regards, > Bob... > > From: "Antonio Aparicio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> Bob, >> >> If your only reply to the very seriuous securityh issue facing most of >> the worlds (Windows) computers is to point to maket share numbers, >> then >> I am afraid you are further removed from reality than I had thought. >> Market share and security are not the same thing. A car analogy for >> you. Volvo are a lot more secure than say Ford. But ford have a >> greater >> market share. >> >> Antonio >> >> On 6 Jul 2004, at 19:53, Bob Blakely wrote: >> >>> Jostein, it's no use yacking back to him. Antonio has no sense of >>> what's >>> really happening, and he never will. Due to his own blind spots, he >>> is >>> incapable of understanding the following: >>> >>> 1. Windows (client) has a 93.8% share of the market >>> 2. Mac & Linux are each about 3% of the market. >>> >>> http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml? >>> articleID=15202215 >>> >>> Now if someone is a cracker ass out to bring folks computers to their >>> knees >>> shouting uncle so that you can claim credit (via pseudonym, of >>> course), >>> which operating system is he going to target? Hint: Everyone on this >>> list >>> knows this, save the fool. >>> >>> Only an fool would claim that a Mac or Linux system is inherently >>> more >>> safe >>> than a Windows system. The number of attempted attacks on them is >>> paltry at >>> best. It's easy to say you have the fastest hotrod in town when >>> you've >>> never >>> really raced. >>> >>> Do you want to be more secure? Well then, buy that MAC or Linux >>> operating >>> system and be glad that everyone else isn't using it. That's what >>> keeps you >>> safe. But remember, the same thing that keeps you safe is what's >>> responsible >>> for the difference in software shelf space devoted to Windows vs. MAC >>> and >>> Linux together. So don't whine about lack of software diversity, my >>> Mac & >>> Linux friends, it's the visible sign of the very thing that keeps you >>> relatively virus free - lack of market share. >>> >>> Remember: "It is impossible to make anything fool- proof because >>> fools >>> are >>> so ingenious.." - unknown. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Bob... >>> ------------------------ >>> "The heart of a fool is in his mouth, but the mouth of a wise man is >>> in his >>> heart." - Benjamin Franklin >>> >>> From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> >>>> Please, antonio, >>>> Quote my arrogant statements. And since you say "again", please >>>> quote >>>> my >>>> previous arrogant statements too, if you can. I'd like to learn from >>>> my >>>> mistakes. >>>> >>>> Quoting Antonio Aparicio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>> >>>>> Jostein, >>>>> >>>>> I think the arrogance and abuse (yet again) is all yours. Not to >>>>> mention the flames. All I did was pass on the information. >>>>> >>>>> Cmon Jostein, any other product would be pulled from the market on >>>>> safety grounds by now, not to mention trade descriptions/not fit >>>>> for >>>>> the purpose for which it was sold! - and yet with Windows we have >>>>> 1,000s of viruses, trojans, etc. etc., all of which apparently the >>>>> responsibility of the user acording to your argument. If anyone >>>>> falls >>>>> foul then it is their fault for not not downloading the latest fix >>>>> from >>>>> Microsoft .... nice thinkiing. I guess that is how you build and >>>>> maintain a monopoly. >>>>> >>>>> Antonio >>>>> >>>>> On 6 Jul 2004, at 14:36, Jostein wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Please, mr. Aparicio. >>>>>> >>>>>> What an arrogant way to present "helpful information". >>>>>> >>>>>> By the time such information reaches your sources (whatever "The >>>>>> Syracuse >>>>>> Post-Standard" may be), most sensible windows users have updated >>>>>> their >>>>>> systems >>>>>> a long time ago. Please don't act like a smartass on operating >>>>>> systems >>>>>> you're >>>>>> not fully familiar with. It's only stuff to fuel flame wars with. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jostein >>>>>> >>>>>> PS. FYI, the Scob Trojan was first observed in the wild 25. June >>>>>> (which is *two* >>>>>> weeks ago), and the Microsoft update available about 20 hours >>>>>> later. >>>>>> Which >>>>>> means that all *legal* copies of Microsoft Windows operating >>>>>> systems >>>>>> could be >>>>>> patched within a week after that, depending on the update >>>>>> frequency. >>>>>> Companies not updating their platforms can of course be caught >>>>>> pants >>>>>> down any >>>>>> day. >>>>>> >>>>>> Quoting Antonio Aparicio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> For those on the list who beleive windows is safe: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> > >
