Lewis
From: Antonio Aparicio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Then what about all the OTHER OT NON PENTAX THREADS? Lets see, there was the Tan is leaving thread (very touching by the way), the Cotys fridge contents thread (usual drivel from Coty), and the unforgetable OT: Loo with a view. Non of which raised an eybrow.....
Antonio
On 6 Jul 2004, at 22:53, alex wetmore wrote:
Becuase it has nothing to do with pentax cameras and this is not the operating system religous war discussion list.
alex
On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, Antonio Aparicio wrote:
Christian,
Interesting. Why the need to end this particlar thread?
Antonio
On 6 Jul 2004, at 22:18, Christian wrote:
how to end this thread:
"Antonio, You are so right! I hadn't seen the errors of my ways. Without your constand attention to Microsoft Windows vulnerabilities I would be completely lost in a pile of viruses, spyware and hijackers. Thank you so much for educating me. Now i will throw out my Windows computers and run out and buy Macs to replace them. Thank you again. I will be forever in your debt. Keep up the good work and make sure you continue to state the failings of Microsoft and the virtues of Macintosh."
Christian
-----Original Message----- From: Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Jul 6, 2004 3:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Windows Scob virus collects passwords, financial data; Macintosh unaffected
There's no malevolent body of twits investing their time to destroy either of these cars. Didn't you understand that a malevolent body of twits investing their time to destroy was the major point of the argument? No? Everyone else did.
Regards, Bob...
From: "Antonio Aparicio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Bob,
If your only reply to the very seriuous securityh issue facing most of the worlds (Windows) computers is to point to maket share numbers, then I am afraid you are further removed from reality than I had thought. Market share and security are not the same thing. A car analogy for you. Volvo are a lot more secure than say Ford. But ford have a greater market share.
Antonio
On 6 Jul 2004, at 19:53, Bob Blakely wrote:
Jostein, it's no use yacking back to him. Antonio has no sense of what's really happening, and he never will. Due to his own blind spots, he is incapable of understanding the following:
1. Windows (client) has a 93.8% share of the market 2. Mac & Linux are each about 3% of the market.
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml? articleID=15202215
Now if someone is a cracker ass out to bring folks computers to their knees shouting uncle so that you can claim credit (via pseudonym, of course), which operating system is he going to target? Hint: Everyone on this list knows this, save the fool.
Only an fool would claim that a Mac or Linux system is inherently more safe than a Windows system. The number of attempted attacks on them is paltry at best. It's easy to say you have the fastest hotrod in town when you've never really raced.
Do you want to be more secure? Well then, buy that MAC or Linux operating system and be glad that everyone else isn't using it. That's what keeps you safe. But remember, the same thing that keeps you safe is what's responsible for the difference in software shelf space devoted to Windows vs. MAC and Linux together. So don't whine about lack of software diversity, my Mac & Linux friends, it's the visible sign of the very thing that keeps you relatively virus free - lack of market share.
Remember: "It is impossible to make anything fool- proof because fools are so ingenious.." - unknown.
Regards, Bob... ------------------------ "The heart of a fool is in his mouth, but the mouth of a wise man is in his heart." - Benjamin Franklin
From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Please, antonio, Quote my arrogant statements. And since you say "again", please quote my previous arrogant statements too, if you can. I'd like to learn from my mistakes.
Quoting Antonio Aparicio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Jostein,
I think the arrogance and abuse (yet again) is all yours. Not to mention the flames. All I did was pass on the information.
Cmon Jostein, any other product would be pulled from the market on safety grounds by now, not to mention trade descriptions/not fit for the purpose for which it was sold! - and yet with Windows we have 1,000s of viruses, trojans, etc. etc., all of which apparently the responsibility of the user acording to your argument. If anyone falls foul then it is their fault for not not downloading the latest fix from Microsoft .... nice thinkiing. I guess that is how you build and maintain a monopoly.
Antonio
On 6 Jul 2004, at 14:36, Jostein wrote:
Please, mr. Aparicio.
What an arrogant way to present "helpful information".
By the time such information reaches your sources (whatever "The Syracuse Post-Standard" may be), most sensible windows users have updated their systems a long time ago. Please don't act like a smartass on operating systems you're not fully familiar with. It's only stuff to fuel flame wars with.
Jostein
PS. FYI, the Scob Trojan was first observed in the wild 25. June (which is *two* weeks ago), and the Microsoft update available about 20 hours later. Which means that all *legal* copies of Microsoft Windows operating systems could be patched within a week after that, depending on the update frequency. Companies not updating their platforms can of course be caught pants down any day.
Quoting Antonio Aparicio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
For those on the list who beleive windows is safe:
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