I agree, at least in context (what's a Garrard?)  In the digital world,
it does not appear that Nikon can really keep up with Canon on the high
end.  I do like the D70 much more than the D-Reb, however.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/21/04 02:35AM >>>
If I was going to switch brands... and I'm not... still contemplating a

67II, it would be to Canon... call it intuition... I have the general,

unresearched, unstudied, undocumented, unverified sense that Nikon is
very 
slowly becoming the Garrard of cameras... or maybe Pentax has...



Tom C.





>From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: why I haven't switched to canon
>Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:27:13 +0200
>
>I forgot to say:
>You may be right about older, used Pentax lenses being quite pricy.
But 
>it's
>also true, that Pentax lenses somtimes are above a state of the art
lens,
>meaning that some Pentax lenses are in fact unmatched / perform better
than
>coresponding lenses from Leica, Zeiss, Nikon or Canon.
>All the best
>
>Jens Bladt
>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt 
>
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sendt: 21. juli 2004 08:15
>Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Emne: RE: why I haven't switched to canon
>
>
>Edwin. IMO a 6MP DSLR featureing:
>. 11-area AF
>. TTL Phase matching AF system
>. Focus point selectable
>. EV 0 to 19 (ISO 100) detection range Focus modes
>. AF-Single
>. AF-Continuous
>. Manual focus AF assist via flash Shooting modes
>. Auto-exposure with hyper-program
>. Programmed AE Mode
>. Shutter-Priority AE
>. Aperture-Priority AE
>. Metered Manual
>. Bulb
>
>Program lines
>. Normal
>. Hi-S
>. Depth of field
>. MTF
>Metering modes
>. 16-segment
>. Center-Weighted Average
>. Spot
>Metering range
>. EV 0 to 21 (at ISO 200 with 50 mm / F1.4 lens) AE Lock
>. Button (20 sec timer)
>. Half-press shutter release
>AE Bracketing
>. 3 frames
>. 0.3, 0.5 or 1.0 EV steps
>Exposure compen.
>. -3.0 to +3.0 EV in 0.5 EV steps
>. -2.0 to +2.0 EV in 0.3 EV steps
>Exposure steps . 0.5 EV
>. 0.3 EV
>Sensitivity
>. ISO 200
>. ISO 400
>. ISO 800
>. ISO 1600
>. ISO 3200
>
>is a state of the art camera.
>
>In 1980 LX was that. In 1983 the Super A was that. In 1992 PZ-1 was
that. 
>In
>2001 MZ-S was that too.
>All the best
>
>Jens Bladt
>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt 
>
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sendt: 21. juli 2004 06:01
>Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Emne: Re: why I haven't switched to canon
>
>
>
>OK, I'm gonna play devil's advocate with Jens' post here.  Obviously,
I'm
>not anti-Pentax, since I own a hell of a lot of Pentax stuff.  I'm
not
>pro-Canon either.
>
>People should know by now that my other system is not Canon but
Nikon.
>I'll buy Canon gear under only two conditions:
>1) my employer hands me a Canon DSLR instead of a Nikon one
>2) Canon produces a better-looking and/or better-working cheap DSLR
>    that takes M42-mount lenses than Pentax (Nikon's not an option
here)
>
> > My answer is simple. I don't want to. For many reasons.
> > Pentax make brilliant user interfaces.
>
>My experience with Canon (all second hand) is that they are very good
at
>the top of the line, and very competitive at the bottom, but weak in
the
>middle.  Pentax is arguably a better advanced amateur system both in
>cameras and lenses.  Pentax is more "traditional" in some desirable
ways.
>
>In general, I'd agree that Pentax UI is good.  Some of that is that
they
>stayed with the classic UI better than many.  Give me a shutter speed
>dial and an aperture ring and I can run almost any camera.
>
> > Good backwards compatibility (could be even better) - excellent old

>lenses
> > may cost less than a new consumer lens.
>
>Backwards compatability IS a strong suit.  With an M42-K adapter you
can
>use lenses from as far back as 1957, which is as good as any brand
gets
>(although Nikon F-mount is close).  Alas, NOBODY has kept complete
>backwards compatability.  Both Nikon and Pentax have modern cameras
which
>won't talk to older lenses (although they will mount, and work).
>
> > K-mount lenses are very easy to get, and not expensive. (I have a
nice
> > M*300mm, that cost me 700 USD. A new 300mm Pentax pro lens would
drain 
>my
> > budget by 12000 USD (list price). But I still have both options.
>
>I find that good Pentax equipment is harder to find on the used
market
>than Nikon or Canon, and often more expensive.  Many of the legendary
>K and A lenses are almost impossible to find.  Granted, for basic "M"
>primes and zooms there are plenty to be had cheaply.  I'm still
looking
>for an M20/4 and a K105/2.8 whereas I find Nikon 20/3.5 and 105/2.5s
>everywhere I turn.
>
> > Pentax cameras are very reliable. When ever one of mine broke, it
was my
>own
> > fault (with only one exception in 23 years).
>
>This depends on what camera and how you use it, I suspect.  I switched
to
>Nikon because I decided that pentax cameras were NOT reliable or easy
to
>get fixed given what I was using and how--I've had an MX, a K2, an
SF-1,
>and 2 super programs fail on me and been told that they were
irreparable,
>plus my ME supers were always in the shop for some fault or other.
>I'm now using different Pentax cameras and using them differently,
and
>have not had problems.
>
> > I have a huge number of lenses available. A 20 year old 100 USD
Pentax
>lens
> > can produce perfectly sharp photographs used with a state of the
art
>digital
> > body. Are Canon offering this?
>
>A state of the art digital body?  Yes.  Is Pentax?
>
>(yes, I know this isn't quite what you meant...)
>
>From what I've heard, some folks would argue that the *istD does not
>produce "perfectly sharp photographs" with many lenses.
>
>Canon has the largest array of lenses in current production, many of
which
>are inexpensive.  I suspect you can fit pre-AF canon lenses to an EOS
with
>an adapter, although it's certainly not the last word in convenience.
>Canon also offers a lot of lens options Pentax doesn't and never did,
>especially at the high end.
>
>DJE
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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