Dteve Jolly wrote
>Recent versions of Paint Shop Pro support lossless JPEG rotatation, FWIW.

I have just checked the support database for ACDSee. I found that it too
allows for lossless rotation of jpegs file -FWIW :-).

Jens Bladt
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Emne: Re: Reducing File Size with Photoshop


> Shel Belinkoff mused:
>>We had a discussion about this some time ago, and a couple of people (John
>>Francis comes to mind as one) suggested that this is not always the case,
>>and that degradation of image quality takes place only in certain
>>circumstances.  My recollection is that if a JPEG has not been changed,
but
>>just opened for vieweing and then saved, there is no image degradation.

It would be possible to do that in theory, but the software responsible
for saving the new JPEG would have to have access to the lossy
compression decisions that were made when the old JPEG was created.  The
BBC has developed a way of doing this for MPEG streams
(http://www.broadcastpapers.com/sigdis/Snell&WilcoxMoleTechnology03.htm),
but AFAIK there's nothing similar available for JPEG.  Such a technology
would inevitably mean larger file sizes, and a new (probably
incompatible) file format.

John Francis wrote:
> Not true, in general. I may have been pointing out that the JPEG
specification
> allowed for the theoretical possibility of rotations (in units of 90
degrees)
> without the necessity of re-quantising the image.

Recent versions of Paint Shop Pro support lossless JPEG rotatation, FWIW.

S



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