Good points.
One of my posts doesn't seem to have made it to the list.
I referrred to the 85 as "candid portrait" lens on the D.
By this I mean a lens which allows a comfortable and 
inconspicuous working distance with little distortion of
features.
Also fast enough to focus manually (ie:without obnoxious
flashes or beam) in very low light.
The speed is not as much for DOF control as for focusing.
I usually shoot at 5.6-8 to allow some room for error and
to ensure all facial features are sharp.
To me a fast 80-90 fills this bill well, (a little longer
on 35mm) the 85/1.9 also does a fine job on skin tones and
I like the Bokeh.
(Now that I can pronounce it I'll use it!) ;-)

Don


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 7:56 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Was it really worth that much?
> 
> 
> On 16 Dec 2004 at 18:26, Don Sanderson wrote:
> 
> > "Hoovers"? As in vacuums [vacuums suck ;-)], as in bad?
> 
> I don't know, the 77mm is Ok for me, bokeh is nice and smooth, 
> wide open it's 
> fine too, it may be too sharp for some though. I must admit that 
> I'm a little 
> confused over all this portrait lens talk though, what 
> constitutes an official 
> "portrait lens" ? My portrait lenses span 15mm to 300mm. I'd hate 
> to be stuck 
> in a photo hell where portraits have to be shot using an 85mm 
> lens between f2 
> and f2.8 :-(
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rob Studdert
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