On Tuesday 28 December 2004 11:36, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> Thanks for your comments, Luigi ...
>
> I just don't understand why so many digi users love to mention how many
> hundreds or thousands of exposures they've made. �Most are probably
> worthless pap made just to "see what happens" �Reminds me of when I got my
> little Sony - I took snaps of everything - the heater vent, my foot, fifty
> snaps of the tree out front - all of which were worthless other than to
> quell the excitement of having a new camera that could take lots of pics
> without film.



I take an awful lot of concert action pictures of local rock bands.  These are 
often in venues where the lighting is unspectacular at best.  I am ashamed to 
admit that perhaps as many as 90 percent of my exposures under these 
circumstances are failures of one sort or other.  Most of the time, it's 
because the lighting sucks.  Some of the time, it's because whatever I'm 
focusing on moves rather suddenly.  Sometimes, other factors interfere:  it 
is sometimes hard to shoot good pictures when you are also trying to dance.  
It is likewise hard to shoot good pictures when the lead guitarist has 
decided to crowdsurf right on top of you!

The fact that I ripped through 1,200 exposures is probably also a function of 
the fact that I've never used a motordrive before, and, as they say, if all 
you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail....

I did try to take a whole load of Pentax Lens Gallery-style pictures with the 
DA18-55mm that came with the DS, but I didn't have a tripod, and I felt cold 
enough that my shivers were probably adversely affecting the pictures.  That 
probably accounts for a lot of photos right there.  

> More important after the excitement of the new camera wears off is the
> picture quality, which you've not mentioned at all. �Do you like the
> results you're getting compared to the other cameras you tried? �Have you
> shot high quality JPEG and did you like the results?

I have liked the results at high quality JPEG, generally, yes.  

RGB noise at ISO 3200 is horrid, however.  It's especially bad if you 
underexpose.  At ISO 800 and below, it's quite a different story, and I have 
been quite impressed at the quality.  

A whole bunch of my recent stuff with the DS is on my livejournal:

<http://www.livejournal.com/users/ouij/>

Check it out and see for yourself.  

The images could probably use a touch more sharpening, but I do this myself in 
the GIMP, rather than mess with the camera.  Other than that, I'm quite 
pleased.

Things I haven't done yet:  set it on a sturdy tripod and shot lens test 
targets (but I'm never going to do that), or  taken long night exposures (no 
cable release).

> Your comment about one-handed use of controls is interesting. �I use the MX
> and other small cameras, and simple, easy access to controls is important
> to me. �But I seem to recall the istD was OK in that regard as well.

The D is also good in that regard.  I didn't mean to imply in my post that it 
wasn't.  

In general, I've found the Pentax digital bodies to have the most intuitive 
control placement.  Nikon's D70 would be next, for me, very closely followed 
by Canon's EOS 10D.  

>
> What's a Drebel?

Digital Rebel, aka EOS 300D.  The real competition for me was not between the 
*ist D and the *ist DS, but rather between the *istDS and the EOS 300D, the 
latter of which is ubiquitous around here.


-Luigi

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