Wrong dude, I have done THOUSANDS of ebay auctions as a buyer and seller and the auction format is nothing more than a different way to price/sell the item mail order compared to "fixed pricing - first come first served". The seller still has to deliver what he claimed and the auction format doe not give him any escape from that and YES they DO have to "eat" all those pesky costs like shipping, paypal fees, ebay fees etc WHEN THEY FALSELY list the item. how else could it work? You expect buyers to bid on stuff that MIGHT be what seller says it is? NO! bidders expect and sellers are obligated to deliver on all claims for the item in the decription....Even "AS-IS" auctions the seller has to deliver on claims made if any. If not the whole ebay thingy would collapse if buyers knew sellers could just lie at will about the items condtion without any negative consequences...
Mail order is totally different than live, the buyer NEEDS to know that all claims made are true or they wouldn't be able to bid realistically.... JCO -----Original Message----- From: Wigwam Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Opinions wanted, ebay item condition > Sorry Wigwam but you have got it all WRONG. Ebay is like > any other mail order purchase. No, it is not. You are in error. eBay is an online auction. Auction sellers can give a warrantee if they like - that an item will meet the buyers specifications or a refund will be offered. Most auctions are conducted 'buy here, pay here' and 'as is, no refunds'. I grew up in the country, attending REAL auctions. That's how they work. I don't understand how people don't know that. >the seller has to deliver what he advertised. Yes. You assume an either/or condition. Either you get what you paid for, or you get nothing. There are an infinite variety of in-between points on that line. Examples: 1) You get what you paid for, you're happy. 2) You get what you paid for, but it is not as nice as you imagined it. You're basically happy. 3) You get something not quite as described - perhaps a different model than was listed. 4) You get something that has a flaw that went unnoticed by the seller. 5) You get something with a flaw that only a few experts in the world on that item could know to look for. 6) You get something, but it is not even close to what was listed. 7) You get nothing. 1 is wonderful, 7 is fraud. There are lots of conditions that are inbetween. You want the seller to eat: 1) His listing charge. 2) His shipping charge to send it to you. 3) Your shipping charge to send it back to him. 4) The Paypal fee he paid so you could pay via Paypal. In the case of fraud, sure. I'm with you. In the case of you being a nitpicky SOB, I'd say...something unprintable. People do not understand auctions. Weird. And yes, saying 'give me a discount or I'll give you a negative feedback' is dishonest and extortion. My opinion. If you can do it and look at yourself in the mirror, good for you.
