Wow!  Thanks Tom ...This is a public forum.  Jump in whenever you wish.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Tom Reese

> Shel Belinkoff asked:
>
> > BTW, what's the difference between F lenses and FA
> > lenses?
>
> I'm not sure if this was directed at everyone or only to Dave Mann. 
> Please forgive my intrusion if you were speaking only to Dave.
>
> You got me curious so I did a Usenet search and I found this post to 
> rec.photo.equipment.35mm from someone named Bandicoot (which sounds 
> familiar):
>
> <BEGIN QUOTE>
>
> FA lenses are more recent, all of both types are autofocus.  The F 
> lenses were introduced in 1987, the FAs in 1997.  A few F lenses are 
> still in the range, notably the 17-28mm fisheye zoom.  The F lenses went 
> with the KAF version of the K mount, the FAs with the KAF2 - as usual, 
> there is full interchangeability.
>
> When the FA lenses came in there were two main changes: one was to the 
> chip you mention (F lenses are 'chipped' too, but FA ones store a bit 
> more data)and the other was the introduction of the Power Zoom feature. 
>   Most current FA lenses don't have Power Zoom, though the top ones 
> still do, and many of the current body range supports only a subset of 
> the PZ feature range - a few support none of the PZ features.  However, 
> any Power Zoom lens can still be used on any body.
>
> The KAF mount and the F lenses can exchange a certain amount of data: 
> focal length (transmitted value changes in a series of steps as a zoom 
> lens is varied), lens-to-subject-distance, 'absolute' value of the 
> selected f-stop (including for variable-aperture zooms), and the 
> physical size of the lens (allowing for changes as it is zoomed and 
> focused).
>
> The biggest use of this information was for improved flash automation - 
> the focal length indication allows the body to warn you if you try to 
> use a built in flash with a lens having a wider angle of view than the 
> flash's coverage, and the lens size information enables bodies to warn 
> if the lens will block some of the light from a built in flash.  The 
> distance information is also used to improve flash exposure accuracy, 
> and in some of the bodies that have picture taking 'modes' it varies the 
> programme line selected.
>
> Focal length also affects the programme line, with bodies (when set to 
> the default programme line) generally trying to avoid setting a shutter 
> speed slower than the reciprocal of the focal length in use.  This is 
> done by storing the programme line in a chip in the lens - one for fixed 
> focal length lenses, up to three for zooms.
>
> The KAF2 mount and FA lenses exchange all of the above information and 
> also one other piece.  The chip stores information on the lens's MTF 
> performance at different apertures - this makes it possible to select a 
> programme line - in bodies that support the feature - that will always 
> try to use the aperture that offers the best resolution.
>
> The other change that the FA spec. saw introduced was, as described 
> above, the Power Zoom feature.  This offers a range of operational 
> options with lenses that support it - some of them very useful, others 
> less so.  This is a whole topic in itself.
>
> Those are the key differences.  There are also cosmetic differences: F
> lenses are grey (early) or moderately shiny black (somewhat later), with 
> the long F* (ED) lenses being white.  FA lenses are in the shiny black 
> (earlier) or either matt black or silver (later).  FA* lenses are in a 
> hard silver coating that I think looks very nice on (relatively) smaller 
> lenses like the 24mm f2 and the 200mm f2.8 but am not so keen on when it 
> is used on the real biggies - like a 300mm 2.8 or 600mm f4.  The FA 
> limited lenses, of course, are different again.
>
> The practical difference applies to the F* and FA* lenses.  These have a
> clutch that disengages the focusing ring - this means a 'real' focus 
> ring that gives good manual control for manual focus use can be built 
> in, because it can be disengaged so it doesn't turn in AF use.  In F* 
> lenses it is a ring behind the focus ring that you pull back on, to use 
> the lens in manual focus you need to do this and switch the body to 
> manual.  In FA* lenses you pull back on the focusing ring itself, and 
> can use the lens in manual just by doing this, even with the body left 
> on AF.  I marginally prefer this latter method, but both work really well.
>
> <END QUOTE>
>
> I can't vouch for the information but nothing jumps out at me as being 
> incorrect and it seems to make sense.
>
> Tom Reese


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