Herb wrote:

> Pentax hasn't demonstrated that it knows one of the simplest business rules, 
> make sure you know who your loved ones are (core market) protect that 
> market. Pentax ought to be making a camera that sells to Pentax enthusiasts 
> who have been buying lots of those lenses that we all like to talk about 
> here. they make a lot of money from each one of us because we buy 
> accessories and lenses where we care about quality and are willing to pay a 
> little more. introducing cheap bodies that appeal to first time buyers of 
> SLRs is well and good, but when that alienates the current users, that's 
> bad.


Apart from the fact their core market and Pentax enthusiast aren't necessarily 
the same, I agree. What I can't understand, however,  is why this criticism 
comes now in 2005 (I whined about the same thing 10 years ago. Now I'm 
optimistic now that Pentax claims to make SLR's their main focus - If I have 
waited 20 years I can certainly wait two more). Pentax dumped their core market 
15-20 years ago (depending on how you count). When you bought your *istD you 
already knew that Pentax had their main focus on P&S and more or less dropped 
developing the K-mount slr line during the 90's (or made or built them P&S 
like). A whole decade was basically entry level P&S slr's from Pentax. Nowadays 
at least they claim that they would make slr's their main business which should 
give reasons for rejoice and not gloom. Huh...if digital P&S would have 
continued being profitable and a market in growth Pentax may not even have 
bothered with the *istD. 
Your arguments doesn't hold water either; your financial "analysis" really 
precludes the camera you actually ask for. If the  market and financial 
situation is as bad as you imply, (I don't think it is - I think Pentax have a 
better starting point for conquering market share than both Olympus and KM - 
whether they realise this potential depends on the products they will release 
of course), then it would surely be suicidal to release a camera body 
significantly above the *istD in price. After all, a higher end SLR typically 
sell 1/10 or less the quantity of entry level models; and this is for 
manufacturers that actually have significant presence in the higher end (Pentax 
doesn't - it is more than 20years since Pentax was a force to be reckoned with 
at all). If Pentax sold 66K last year - it means 6K DSLR in upper level; surely 
not sustainable. What Pentax have been saying, is basically that they 
practically speaking don't have a user base for higher end DSLR until 
sufficientl!
 y many users have bought an entry level DSLR from Pentax. This means that they 
think that Pentax enthusiast with many lenses without an *istD that will jump 
directly to a semi-pro Pentax DSLR (like me) are too few to be reckoned with. 
If one in ten ugrade from an *istD to a higher end DSLR, and I don't think this 
number is unrealistic, then it takes quite a lot of camera sales until it is 
viable. My "educated" guesstimate is that 1/10th of *istD owners will upgrade 
(I'm not talking about an updated *istD but a camera in a class above), 10.000 
perhaps will come from Pentax enthusiast without a Pentax DSLR but lots of 
lenses; 10.000 from other brands or previous non-Pentax owners (I think I'm 
being  generous here). Still, there needs to be a lot of *istD(S/L) to be sold 
in order to create a customer base. Pentax wants to create stepping stone 
upgrade path but timing will be dependent on how many entry or volume level 
DSLR's they sell.  


Pål


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