Understood. We're on the same page pretty much. I took me a while to get your tongue-in-cheek reference.

When thinking about street photography I've felt the following for quite a while... if a story (the written word) is *needed* to add meaning to the photo, then the photo may have been weak and may not stand on it's own merits. The ones I find compelling are those that are able to evoke emotions or feelings without the need for an accompanying dialogue.

My PUG submission this month is likely a good example of a photo that does not stand on it's own merits. When I saw the rusting bow of the ship in red, white, and blue stars and stripes, it made me think of the apparent erosion of personal freedom and liberty that many believe is occurring in the United States. Hence it's tongue-in-cheek title "Back in the USSA". :) I personally liked the rusting bow of the ship, but found it only had real meaning to me when I added the words. So I doubt the photograph stands on it's own.

Tom C.



From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: PESO - Splittin Image (My Street Shot)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 22:55:30 -0400

By :"tongue in cheek" I meant only that your describing the rainbow photo as street photography was a lighthearted, humorous footnote to the discussion. I realize you don't care for street photography. I have mixed feelings about it myself, although I enjoy attempting it from time to time. I don't feel that anyone here is obligated to embrace every style of photography. Nor do I feel that negative comments are out of line. What I don't like is when critiques are offered in a mean spirited way and expressed pedantically. I think that an "I think" should always precede a critique. No one here is qualified to judge without qualification, and i would hope that no one here would ever trash another member's work in anger. But that's only my opinion.
Paul
On Aug 8, 2005, at 10:34 PM, Tom C wrote:

Hi Paul,

I'm glad you gave me the benefit of the doubt. :) Actually it wasn't tongue-in-cheek (for once). I truly don't like most street photography. I do however occasionally find exceptional shots in the genre I appreciate. Most of those have been introduced to me by people on this list, either their own or by references to well-known photographers.

I earlier attempted to express my personal views and feelings about street photography, while acknowedging that I do find some of the images compelling. I thought and hoped I did so in a manner that expressed an overall negative view regarding most of the images I see, without making it a personal attack.

Tom C.

ubject: Re: PESO - Splittin Image (My Street Shot)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 22:00:03 -0400

Hmm, who has a derisive attitude?
Tom's reference to street photography was obviously tongue in cheek.

On Aug 8, 2005, at 9:40 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Derivative, poor tonality, mediocre composition.  These things, coupled
with a derisive attitude about a type of photography that, because you
neither like nor understand it, lessens the value of your image and puts it more into the realm of a sarcastic comment than a photo intended to stand
on its own merits.

Shel


[Original Message]
From: Christian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom C"

Taken a week ago from the top of the driveway.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3616155


Now THAT'S "street photography"!!!








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