Ditto

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Bruce


Saturday, October 1, 2005, 2:10:53 PM, you wrote:

PS> That pretty well sums it up for me. Good post, John.
PS> Paul
PS> On Oct 1, 2005, at 4:05 PM, John Forbes wrote:

>> Tom,
>>
>> The continual negativism on this forum doesn't make it a better place,
>> and it certainly doesn't HELP Pentax.  What is does is to distort 
>> people's assessment of Pentax's true position.
>>
>> You wouldn't think so from some of the posts, but Pentax is a 
>> profitable company. It clearly went through a hard time when it was
>> forced to abandon the MZ-D, and I personally think it has bounced back
>> from that rather well.  A company with less financial muscle, and less
>> commitment to photography, would have given up then.  The fact that it
>> didn't speaks volumes.
>>
>> As the more level-headed members of this site point out, the current
>> DSLR range (the D, incidentally, is still available) meets the needs
>> of most people, even most PDML members.  Yes, it would be nice to have
>> extra bells and whistles, but most of us don't actually need them, and
>> many of us wouldn't pay very much for them. That's not to deny that
>> there are some photographers whose needs are clearly not well served
>> by the present line-up.  However, they are a small minority, and with
>> luck (and a little time), the D replacement will address their 
>> problems.
>>
>> It is noteworthy that there are now very few list members left who 
>> have not bought a Pentax DSLR.  Clearly, there must be something good
>> about them.
>>
>> In my view the Pentax DSLRs provide a much better picture-taking 
>> experience than any 35mm film camera, and I expect my two D bodies to
>> be active for some time to come, whatever the future of Pentax. That
>> means I will continue to buy lenses.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 20:20:45 +0100, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> In answer to your last question, yes I've perceived that to be the
>>> case sometimes, but not with the Chongwagon comment.  However, it's
>>> not all whining and negativism.  Some of it's an ongoing analysis 
>>> and, yes, speculation regarding the future of the brand, and 
>>> therefore the wisdom of future potential 'investments'.
>>>
>>> I single-handedly, and others who tend to share the same views, will
>>> not make those views come true.  Pentax, having marketed and produced
>>> in the manner they have, are responsible for their image, ranking in
>>> the marketplace.
>>>
>>> Tom C.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...
>>>> Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 19:38:16 +0100
>>>>
>>>> Which is a pretty big market if you think about it, in MF terms.
>>>>
>>>> Why don't you post a lot more negative messages about Pentax?  That
>>>> way  you'll make your worst fears come true.
>>>>
>>>> It seems to me that in life we need a certain amount of optimism.
>>>> People  who get things done are optimists; people who whinge and 
>>>> bellyache are not  nice to know and tend not to amount to much.
>>>>
>>>> Have you noticed that the most prolific posters of pictures on this
>>>> site,  and the best photographers, do not as a rule jump on the 
>>>> Chongwagon.  They  just get on with life and take pictures.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 18:33:47 +0100, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yep.  I can't see the market for a 645D being too much more than
>>>>> owners  of a film Pentax 645 system.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom C.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...
>>>>>> Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 10:45:48 +1000
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 30 Sep 2005 at 15:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Formats are only names now. A 645D would probably be no larger
>>>>>> or  heavier than
>>>>>> > the current Canon D1s Mark II, and Pentax has already said it's
>>>>>> sensor won't be
>>>>>> > true 645 dimensions. Most prosumers cameras and some pro models
>>>>>> will  probably
>>>>>> > remain APS-C. It's all just semantics. Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The difference is that in reality by the time the 645D comes to
>>>>>> market  (if at
>>>>>> all) there will likely be very little advantage between a top end
>>>>>> Canon  DSLR
>>>>>> kit and the 645D technically. And if I had to buy a new set of 
>>>>>> lenses  (which I
>>>>>> would if I had to buy a 645D to get anything remotely top end out
>>>>>> of  Pentax)
>>>>>> I'd definitely buy into the Canon system and I can't imagine other
>>>>>>  people in my
>>>>>> position not doing the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rob Studdert
>>>>>> HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
>>>>>> Tel +61-2-9554-4110
>>>>>> UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
>>>>>> Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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