Rob noted:
> As I indicated archiving my digital images takes me no more than 45 mins per 
> 4.7GB of data, that's acceptable to me and the cost is minimal. 

I've been archiving with the new LaCie 16X DVD burner. With Titanium Toast 6, 
it can pack 4.7 gigs onto a DVD in about ten minutes. For right around $250, 
that burner was one of the best investments I've ever made. I've now gotten in 
the habit of archiving important shots immediately. Yesterday I filled three 
one gig cards shooting a jewelry ad. Ten minutes after I got home the files 
were on my hard drive and a DVD. Once I process the RAWs, I'll burn another DVD 
with the select tiffs and all the original RAWs.
Paul
> 


> On 3 Oct 2005 at 11:05, Toralf Lund wrote:
> 
> > Possibly. The main issue with DVDs is really that there isn't one common 
> > format. A bit annoying.
> 
> I settled on DVD-R since it's the more prevalent media standard.
> 
> > What I was referring to, is that the main risk with CD storage according 
> > to people that use it for professional archival purposes, is complete 
> > disintegration of the media, i.e. you don't expect one or two files to 
> > go bad on you, but you might loose all of them in one go. These people 
> > expect a lifetime of no more than 10 years from a CD - actually I think 
> > they sometimes renew the media every 5 years. But they are probably a 
> > lot more worried (or should I say paranoid) about the loosing the data 
> > than you and I.
> 
> I don't believe optical media longevity is really such a problematic issue, 
> there is so much contradictory information circling about that I'm happy to 
> rely upon my personal experiences which have been very good over the last ten 
> years. What I do know is that some of the older films in my possession have 
> disintegrated before my eyes even in near ideal storage conditions.
> 
> > Yes. Like I said, the real issue is the data management. Thinking that 
> > storing a lot of largish files on a computer costs you nothing is very 
> > naive. It either costs you time or it costs you money (or both). Then 
> > there is the overall computer maintenance cost...
> 
> As I indicated archiving my digital images takes me no more than 45 mins per 
> 4.7GB of data, that's acceptable to me and the cost is minimal. I do however 
> run a large RAID array where I also keep live copies of all my files however 
> obviously it's not a necessity.
> 
> > Yeah, I guess it depends on what you want to do. I think, however, it is 
> > fair to assume that people in general, and subscribers to this list in 
> > particular, will want to store their picture in a more permanent form 
> > than what an inkjet print gives you. In fact, prints from a lab would 
> > probably be better, and cheaper, too...
> 
> I'm far happier to store my RAW image files and final edits in digital form, 
> it's then so easy to return to the original files to edit or re-print.
> 
> > To me, JPG storage just makes no sense for the kind of equipment we are 
> > discussing here...
> 
> I think you'll find that there are still quite a few people even here on this 
> forum that shoot and store their images primarily or only in JPG formats. It 
> works for some people.
> 
> > Yeah, if you don't care about the quality... But I really don't 
> > understand why people who don't would get a DSLR in the first place. Why 
> > not save even more money by buying a cheap P&S?
> 
> SLRs provide more flexible modes of operation than the general P&S, there are 
> all sorts of other reasons why someone may opt for an SLR type camera over a 
> P&S, it doesn't all have to be about perceived image quality.
> 
> > Yes, but the camera media might conceivably be optical, too.
> 
> Hopefully all my best film images will find their way onto optical media in a 
> digital form within the next year or so, then I can start making some decent 
> prints :-)
> 
> > I rather doubt it. A film per week is already shooting "more". The 
> > normal is, or used to be, 2 or 3 films a year, I think... (I mean, for 
> > people in general.)
> 
> Fair enough.
> 
> 
> Rob Studdert
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