> 
> From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/01/04 Wed AM 01:57:56 GMT
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: And what about storing the CDs/DVDs?
> 
> In the FWIW category -
> 
> In an effort to render confidential material (jpeg images)  on a CD 
> unreadable, I started placing 2 deep scratches - made with one half of a 
> scissor - across the diameter of a CD, 90 degrees apart. After "destroying" 
> several CD's this way, I decided to see what effect this had on the data on 
> the CD
> I was dumbfounded that it had no decernable effect on the readability of the 
> data.
> 
> I now cut the CDs in two!
> 
> Kenneth Waller

Do it on the label side and it will work.  That's the side that is fragile.  
Virtually any damage there will make the CD/DVD unplayable in that area and 
beyond.  If you damage near the centre, the whole thing should become unuseable.

m

> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Subject: RE: And what about storing the CDs/DVDs?
> 
> 
> > yes, of course its always best to handle and store the
> > DVD discs carefully as possible, but my story of experiences with
> > hundreds of heavily scratched library ones ( which you edited out),
> > clearly demonstrates that they are not as fragile/
> > physically corruptible as most people would assume they are.
> > I was in disbelief myself when nearly all of these discs
> > were playable/readable. They were way beyond anything I had
> > ever seen in terms of the quantity and magnitude of scratches.
> > I wouldn't of posted that if I hadnt experienced it first hand
> > because it really is unbeliveable how much scratching is tolerated....
> > I am using about a 2 yr old sony DVD-video 5 disc player and dedicated
> > DVD-ROM only drive (samsung) in my PC during that time. Your mileage may
> > vary. Im sure some drives are better than others for scratch immunity...
> > jco
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 7:58 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: And what about storing the CDs/DVDs?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 3, 2006, at 3:14 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
> >
> >>> ... DVDs in my experience are not realy that physicallly sensitive to
> >>> dust ( can be wiped off) or even lots of light scratches. ...
> >
> > I have seen plenty of cases where DVDs in particular do not play
> > correctly due to scratching, less so for CD media, and this is for
> > commercially produced CDs/DVDs, which are a lot more robust than CD-R
> > and DVD-R media. Caution in handling and storage is always a good
> > idea for sensitive data, whether you've had good or bad experience
> > with the media. Multiple backups is always the safest course of action.
> >
> > One of the advantages of large capacity hard disk storage is that
> > very large libraries of data can be periodically checked and verified
> > easily and quickly, without physically having to mount and dismount
> > large numbers of devices. Handling is the biggest source of damage to
> > any media, film included. Any open-to-the-air, interchangeable media
> > device is, by its very nature, more prone to damage than a sealed
> > hard disk's platters. Notwithstanding the frangibility of portable
> > hard drive devices (where you've made a tradeoff in reliability/
> > durability for the advantage of portability) HDDs have significantly
> > greater MTBF ratings compared to any floppy or other open-platter
> > storage device.
> >
> > Godfrey
> > 
> 
> 


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