Absolutely, Paul! Glad to know it happening. Jack
--- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is that supposed to be news? Remember how the dems whined after 9/11 > that the government had failed "to connect the dots?" Remember how > the > loyal opposition complained that the administration hadn't done > enough > to protect us against an attack? You can't have it both ways. > > And if someone is spying on me, let them spy away. I have nothing to > hide. > Paul > > On Jan 10, 2006, at 5:28 PM, Bob Shell wrote: > > > Read below: > > > > On Jan 10, 2006, at 4:44 PM, E.R.N. Reed wrote: > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >>> Uh, there's no spy camera in my house. Checked just this morning. > > >>> And the only time I ever caught my neighbor spying on me was when > I > >>> went skinny dipping in the pool. > >>> Paul > >>> > >> > >> Same here, except for the pool part, since I don't have one. > >> > >> > >>> -------------- Original message ---------------------- > >>> From: Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > >>>> On Jan 10, 2006, at 12:37 PM, Tom C wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> In that case why not put spy cameras in everyone's homes so the > > >>>>> government can watch? Prevent the uncommitted crime from > >>>>> occurring. > >>>>> > >>>>> Encourage public schools to pry into personal matters. > Encourage > >>>>> school children to tell when their parents' personal views > differ > >>>>> from those popularly accepted. Encourage neighbor to spy upon > >>>>> neighbor. > >>>>> > >>>>> I don't know about you, but that's not where I want to live. > >>>>> > >>>> We're already living there, I'm afraid. > >>>> > >>>> Bob > > > > > > Source: Raiders News Service > > > > http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/lead-story299.htm > > > > January 08, 2006 > > > > > > The NSA Spy Engine: Echelon > > > > By Jason Leopold > > t r u t h o u t - Investigative Report > > > > A clandestine National Security Agency spy program code-named > > Echelon was likely responsible for tapping into the emails, > > telephone calls and facsimiles of thousands of average American > > citizens over the past four years in its effort to identify > > people suspected of communicating with al-Qaeda terrorists, > > according to half-a-dozen current and former intelligence > > officials from the NSA and FBI. > > > > The existence of the program has been known for some time. > > Echelon was developed in the 1970s primarily as an American- > > British intelligence sharing system to monitor foreigners - > > specifically, during the Cold War, to catch Soviet spies. But > > sources said the spyware, operated by satellite, is the means by > > which the NSA eavesdropped on Americans when President Bush > > secretly authorized the agency to do so in 2002. > > > > Another top-secret program code-named Tempest, also operated by > > satellite, is capable of reading computer monitors, cash > > registers and automatic teller machines from as far away as a > > half-mile and is being used to keep a close eye on an untold > > number of American citizens, the sources said, pointing to a > > little known declassified document that sheds light on the > > program. > > > > Echelon has been shrouded in secrecy for years. A special report > > prepared by the European Parliament in the late 1990s disclosed > > explosive details about the covert program when it alleged that > > Echelon was being used to spy on two foreign defense contractors > > - the European companies Airbus Industrie and Thomson-CSF - as > > well as sifting through private emails, industrial files and > > cell phones of foreigners. > > > > The program is part of a multinational spy effort that includes > > intelligence agencies in Canada, Britain, New Zealand and > > Australia, also known as the Echelon Alliance, which is > > responsible for monitoring different parts of the world. > > > > The NSA has never publicly admitted that Echelon exists, but the > > program has been identified in declassified government > > documents. Republican and Democratic lawmakers have long > > criticized the program and have, in the past, engaged in fierce > > debate with the intelligence community over Echelon because of > > the ease with which it can spy on Americans without any > > oversight from the federal government. > > > > Mike Frost, who spent 20 years as a spy for the CSE, the > > Canadian equivalent of the National Security Agency, told the > > news program 60 Minutes in February 2000 how Echelon routinely > > eavesdrops on many average people at any given moment and how, > > depending on what you say either in an email or over the > > telephone, you could end up on an NSA watch list. > > > > "While I was at CSE, a classic example: A lady had been to a > > school play the night before, and her son was in the school play > > and she thought he did a -- a lousy job. Next morning, she was > > talking on the telephone to her friend, and she said to her > > friend something like this, 'Oh, Danny really bombed last > > night,' just like that," Frost said. "The computer spit that > > conversation out. The analyst that was looking at it was not too > > sure about what the conversation was referring to, so erring on > > the side of caution, he listed that lady and her phone number in > > the database as a possible terrorist." > > > > Ironically, during the first Bush administration, a woman named > > Margaret Newsham, who worked for Lockheed Martin and was > > stationed at the NSA's Menwith Hill listening post in Yorkshire, > > England, told Congressional investigators that she had firsthand > > knowledge that the NSA was illegally spying on American > > citizens. > > > > While a Congressional committee did look into Newsham's > > allegations, it never published a report. However, a British > > investigative reporter named Duncan Campbell got hold of some > > committee documents and discovered that Newsham was telling the > > truth. One of the documents described a program called "Echelon" > > that would monitor and analyze "civilian communications into the > > 21st century." > > > > As of 2000, sources said, the NSA had Echelon listening posts > > located in: Menwith Hill, Britain; Morwenstow, Britain; Bad > > Aibling, Germany; Geraldton Station, Australia; Shoal Bay, > > Australia; Waihopai, New Zealand; Leitrim, Canada; Misawa, > > Japan; Yakima Firing Center, Seattle; Sugar Grove, Virginia. > > > > A January 1, 2001, story in the magazine Popular Mechanics > > disclosed details of how Echelon works. > > > > "The electronic signals that Echelon satellites and listening > > posts capture are separated into two streams, depending upon > > whether the communications are sent with or without encryption," > > the magazine reported. "Scrambled signals are converted into > > their original language, and then, along with selected "clear" > > messages, are checked by a piece of software called Dictionary. > > There are actually several localized "dictionaries." The UK > > version, for example, is packed with names and slang used by the > > Irish Republican Army. Messages with trigger words are > > dispatched to their respective agencies." > > > > Electronic signals are captured and analyzed through a series of > > supercomputers known as dictionaries, which are programmed to > > search through each communication for targeted addresses, words, > > phrases, and sometimes individual voices. The communication is > > then sent to the National Security Agency for review. Some of > > the more common sample key words that the NSA flags are: > > terrorism, plutonium, bomb, militia, gun, explosives, Iran, > > Iraq, sources said. > > > > Because Echelon can easily spy on Americans without any > > oversight or detection, and because Echelon covers such a wide > > spectrum of communication, many current and former NSA officials > > said that it's likely the agency used its satellites to target > > Americans, Mark Levin, a former chief of staff to Edwin Meese > > during the Reagan administration, wrote last month in a blog > > post on the National Review Online. > > > > "Under the ECHELON program, the NSA and certain foreign > > intelligence agencies throw an extremely wide net over virtually > > all electronic communications world-wide. There are no warrants. > > No probable cause requirements. No FISA court. And information > > is intercepted that is communicated solely between US citizens > > within the US, which may not be the purpose of the program but, > > nonetheless, is a consequence of the program." > > > > --- > > > > Jason Leopold spent two years covering California's electricity > > crisis as Los Angeles bureau chief of Dow Jones Newswires. Jason > > has spent the last year cultivating sources close to the CIA > > leak investigation, and is a regular contributer to truthout > > > > > > > > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
