Thanks, Ken. You seem to know a lot about this. I have embedded some follow-up questions, if you don't mind.

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1. DFA100mm Macro.
Pentax provided Tokina with the optical design and Tokina designed the barrel to implement it.

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I assume there is a good source for this information. I am wondering why Pentax would do this, unless it was just a direct sale to Tokina. So did Tokina design the quick-shift mechanism of the D FA 100?

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2. Optical formula of 12-24 was done by Tokina and Pentax followed it up with ghostless coating

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Okay, there's been a lot of speculation that the 12-24 is a Tokina design.

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3. Tokina provided DA lenses optical designs and Pentax implemented them with the barrel design.

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Ken, which DA lenses do you mean here? All of them or specific ones? Does this include the DA primes? The DA 16-45?

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4. DA FYZ is of course the Pantax design but Tokina might incorporate it in their products

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Do you mean the fisheye? Pentax announced that the optics were designed jointly with Tokina. What does that mean, and why did Pentax acknowledge it? What puzzles me is that the fisheye zoom was a Pentax exclusive (the F 17-28). Now Pentax has given it away to everyone else. Why would they do that? Was it just for some quick cash? Or will they get some continuing royalty on every one of these that is sold to one of the millions of Canon users?

Thanks, Ken. Any further information you can supply would be appreciated.

Incidentally, I am not disturbed to learn this. Tokina has made some fine lenses. I have the AT-X Pro 28-80 F2.8. It is very sharp, but prone to flare. I also have the AT-X 400 F5.6. Put SMC coatings on these and they would be even better.

But Tokina (like everyone else) has also made some lenses that are merely adequate. Their current 28-75 F2.8 is a budget offering. It tests unfavorably relative to Tamron's offering in the same class.

So this news makes me hesitate about the forthcoming F2.8 zooms. Will these be top lenses or merely adequate ones?

Joe

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