>Like somebody mentioned (I think); it's kind of like the swimming lesson
>where the dad throws
>his kid off the end of the dock. Is it the best way to teach someone to
>swim. For some YES,

I'm sorry Jeff, but I wasn't going to contribute anymore to this thread, 
but this post simply cannot go without comment!

By your assumption, you seem to presume that by getting a non-auto 
camera, one is 'throwing one's child into the deep end'. I outright 
refute that suggestion! In no way would I do that to my, or any child, or 
in fact anyone learning from me. I have always had the privelage of 
teaching people the principles of photography and/or film-making in a 
gentle manner, which in no way sees anyone 'thrown off the end of the 
dock'. I think you will find that ANYONE who knows their stuff would NOT 
do this to someone learning.

Obviously I can only confirm my own case, but I think your posting more 
or less tars all the 'manuals' with the same brush there, and I can only 
tell you that you are most definately wrong!

Again, I say: any technique with teaching *can* work. The world would 
indeed be a boring place if we were all the same...

Ha-blooming-rumph!

Cotty

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