My son is very artistic, and shows an aptidude for creativity,
also he has turned out a wizard at Web-page design.  He will
excell I'm certain, once he gets the bug. He currently uses a
point-and-click camera, but is already frustrated by it's limitations.
Regards
James
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>>> Get him the K-1000! It's nothing to do with what you want;
it's 
>>> everything to do with teaching youngsters the principles
of photography.
>>
>>Only if you believe that learning only comes from failure.
>
>Not true IMHO. Depends who is teaching. I think there are many
methods 
>that can work, again it depends on the teacher and the pupil.
I can only 
>vouch for my son and myself. However, that does not preclude
me from 
>recommending the method.
>
>>> If you get him an automatic-this, automatic-that camera,
what
>>> will he learn? How to compose an image? And what else?
>>
>>He might just learn that photography can be an engrossing and
>>interesting experience, rather than just a mechanical exercise
>>in aligning the match needle in the viewfinder.
>
>I have no intentions of limiting the method to a mechanical
exercise in 
>aligning the match needle in the viewfinder, and I have no doubt
at all 
>that he will find it an engrossing and interesting experience
(not 
>matching the needle). 
>
>>He *might* even learn that he enjoys the creative and artistic
>>side of being a photographer.
>
>I agree. 
>
>What I don't agree with is that by providing a tool that is
way 
>'over-specced' for the task of teaching is the answer. In fact
you have 
>made me think again on one point: he'll be starting out with
no meter in 
>the camera at all. I shall remove the batteries. A seperate
meter will be 
>just the ticket. This will be much easier to illustrate the
properties of 
>light. Then at a later date we can move on to TTL metering.
Thanks for 
>that.
>
>>Show him how he can outperform the camera by careful and intelligent
>>choice of shutter speed and/or aperture setting, and you've
provided
>>a powerful case of learning by example.
>
>As well as a manual (film) camera, I would hope to include (not
in any 
>particular order): pinhole camera, digital camera, film camera,
video 
>camera, and even audio recording at some point. And probably
things I 
>haven't thought of yet. In fact whatever springs to mind and
is relevant.
>
>The way I see it, start off basic, work one's way up, learning
and 
>mastering the equipment and the technique along the way, graduating
from 
>level to level. As you suggest, it is perfectly possible to
do this with 
>a more sophisticated camera. As it happens, I choose, and recommend,
that 
>much more basic gear is used. It worked well for me and I see
no reason 
>to change it. However, I don't see anything intrinsically wrong
with any 
>other method - we're all different. It the shoe fits...
>
>To the chap who is wondering what sort of camera to get: I started
out 
>with very basic kit and in no way felt at a disadvantage. With
the 
>benefit of hindsight, I now believe that this is a great way
to go about 
>learning photography, and highly recommend it. As I said before:
go for 
>it!
>
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