Ok, This has been mostly good natured so far but sheesh...whoda thunk this was the result?

Cotty,
I think you're off your nut here. But that's just my opinion and we all have one. I still like you though.


I do NOT think any good basketball fan would come out with nearly as good a take if you sat him in Bob Rosato's spot and handed him Bob's rig. They would likely come out with some great photos but probably not as many. Part of the art is knowing where to place the remote cameras and framing the areas you want to cover from that angle (in this case there were cameras under the media tables peaking out at the court, on the floor right next to the baskets, Attached to the goals, in the first seating section attached to railings off the corner of the court, in the second level seating section attached to railings, in the third level seating section, and in the catwalk. Most of these were placed where it would be impossible to put a person during the game.

I understand your point about the goal of these photos being to sell products and I agree.

I don't agree that there's no heart here though. If you watched the game live, then viewed the photos, I'm sure you'd see in the photos the tension, and excitement of the event. These photos capture the game just like any photo captures any event. If there's no heart in them then there's none in much of what's produced anywhere, anytime.

SI had four guys at the Dome this week (at the court, not sure if there was anybody back in the photo editing area or if they're just sending the whole take up to headquarters).

Their goal was to capture the event for the pages of their publication. I'm sure they'd have a different approach if the goal was human interest, fan experience, or basketball art. But for capturing the game so as to illustrate a story in print, I'm pretty sure there's no better way.



Cory
Has survived twelve basketball tournaments at the Georgia Dome, but only just.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: March Madness


On 25/3/06, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

I guess I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion, as it seems that,
Cotty, you're pretty well entrenched in your position.  I wonder,
though:  Several times you've shown us shots you've made "from the
hip", when you've not been looking through the viewfinder.  Where to
such shots fit into this debate?

They have no heart either. They're completely objective. (***IMO***)

Don't confuse not having any 'heart' with not having any talent. The
shot you referred to

<http://www.walteromalley.com/hist_hof_robinson2.php?photo=5>

is a wonderful shot (if you like baseball ;-) but it is totally
heartless! It has no soul. (Uh oh here we go again).

I suppose it would be true to say that if I did not know how the pic was
taken (either conventionally or fly by wire) then I would have to judge
it based purely on the image, which is what I have advocated since I was
15. Which means I'm going around in circles and contradicting myself. I
think I'd had too much to drink the other night when I wrote about the
basketball setups being heartless. I think I'll retract the whole damn
thing and go lie down in a small dark room for a bit.




Cheers,
 Cotty


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