I''ve shot at least 500 frames with the DA 16-45, probably quite a few more. And i've used the standard hood with all of them. Remember, this lens is 16mm at the wide end. I suspect Pentax has optimized the hood. However, I should point out that I always "flag" the sun with my free hand whenever I think it might be a problem. It's a good practice. Paul
On Jun 16, 2006, at 6:32 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:t > I understand what you're saying, and your little test makes sense. In > the > past I've done similar tests to test the viability of different lens > hoods, > and i was thinking of what hood might work better on the 16-45. > Getting > away from the tulip hood might be helpful, and perhaps some 67mm > threaded > metal hoods might work, such as the hood from a A*85/1.4, or some hoods > designed for 6x7 lenses. I've always tried to use the deepest or > tightest > hoods I could find to reduce the possibility of such things happening. > For > example, on my A*200/2.8 I'd use a hood like the Heliopan I sold you > and > than add a certain Nikon hood to the front of that - just an example. > Or, > on the 77mm I use a Takumar hood from the Super Tak 135/3.5, which also > works well on the A50/1.4. For my 35mm lenses on the DS I've been > using > hoods that were designed for lenses around the 105mm focal length, and > I've > really gone tight with the hood I'm using on the K18/3.5. So, it's > possible > that a better hood will solve or reduce the problem. > > Before getting Patsy's lens to try, I asked the list about hoods for > the > 16-45 and everyone who replied said the standard hood was best. I'm no > longer convinced that's the case - in fact, I was skeptical from the > beginning. > > Shel > > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >> Date: 6/16/2006 3:07:02 PM >> Subject: Re: 24-90 flare [Was: Re: Your Favorite Zoom Lens] >> >> Hello Shel, >> >> Intrigued, I took my 16-45 and FA 50/1.4 outside here to test for >> flare. It is 100 degrees and very sunny right now, so easy to get the >> sun in the image. As I worked with the 16-45 first, I could cause it >> to flare when I put the sun just outside of the top corner of the >> frame. If I moved the sun into the frame just slightly, it flare >> would go away. So it seemed that there was one angle of the sun that >> would catch the glass just right that SMC coatings wouldn't help >> enough. >> >> Then I put on the FA 50 and tried the same thing. On this lens, it >> would flare just as the sun was put into the frame, rather than just >> outside it. It can be made to flare just about as easily as the >> 16-45, but at a different angle. >> >> The picture that Paul Stenquist showed had the sun in the frame and so >> the flare was mostly absent. Your shot has the sun just outside the >> frame and so it really showed. >> >> Anyway, in my quickie test, it seemed that there was a single spot >> where the flare would really show, but I could make another Pentax >> lens do just about the same thing. That is probably why I haven't >> noticed any real flare problems with mine - it didn't take much of a >> movement to fix the problem. >> >> Thoughts? >> >>>> [Original Message] >>>> From: Bruce Dayton >> >>>> I'm curious if you had a filter on the lens for the awful flare >>>> version. I know the shot you took of me had a filter on it albeit >>>> an >>>> SMC filter. >>>> >>>> I have never seen flare like the awful on from my 16-45 - but if I >>>> think flare could be an issue, I always take of the filter. Just >>>> curious. I may have to go out and see if I can get mine to flare >>>> that >>>> badly. >> >>>> SB> http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/bruceflare.jpg >>>> SB> http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/awfulflare.jpg >>>> >>>> SB> Shel >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

