>From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>It is an unfortunate fact that the PUG is slowly dying.  One reason is
>that some (often good) photographers find the file size limitation too
>restrictive, or that the submission process is too much hassle.
>
>Another is that incompetent people like me miss the deadlines, and
>therefore don't contribute (no great loss in my case).
>
>Others feel that the standard is too low, and it's not worth the bother.
>
>What is the PUG for?  Is it a showcase of the PDML's best work?  Or is it
>an opportunity to present one's work for peer review and criticism?  If
>the latter, can't the same be achieved by a PESO?
>
>If it is meant to be a showcase, why not have a panel of judges to select
>the 50 best PAWs and PESOs each month, and then put them into a gallery?
>Irfanview can produce a suitable gallery with thumnnails at the press of a
>button, so there is little work involved.
>
>As for file sizes, I would suggest that people submitting PAWs and PESOs
>should consciously aim to keep file sizes low (say 150k) in order to make
>the images available to the widest audience.  But there should not be a
>strict size limit.  It is surely better to have a large picture which a
>few people can't see, than have a picture which nobody can see because the
>photographer doesn't submit it.
>
>
>John
>

As is often the case, my posts sometimes go ignored...

Here's the way I see it and this is just my opinion.

If the 'Gallery' is not supposed to represent the best we can do, but is
instead a catch-all photo-sharing mechanism, there are plenty of ways to
accomplish that.  PESO's for one, or make use of any number of photo sharing
sites.  A Flickr or photo.net account could be opened with a publicly known
password and a new themed presentation could be created each month.  There
would not need to be a deadline as participants could post their photo at
any time during the themed month, and no single person would have the burden
of maintaining it.  If a person posted a photo and then thought better of
it, they could remove it, and possibly post another.  It would not be
static, but one that continually evolves.  If one wants to have a photo
sharing/commenting/learning experience, that would seem to be much more
flexible.

(Note: I realize the idea coulld present some security/mischief/nefarious
behavior issues).

I have always thought that a 'Gallery' was supposed to be something special.
I don't presume to speak for, think for, write for, in any way comment
for, or influence Adelheid.  However a fair amount of time and effort has
gone into the PUG both in software and in the monthly effort of maintaining
it.

If it is not something special, then I question the reason for it being
called a gallery and even for having a maintainer.  When I first joined the
PDML in 1999 (I think my first post was '97/'98) I sort of viewed the
gallery as a showcase for what could be created with Pentax equipment. At
that time the PUG was loosely linked to the PDML and the PDML had a link on
the Pentax website.

I generally enjoy the PUG, but more than having a large number of
participants, since it's called a gallery, I wish it would be more of a high
quality showcase.  A lot of high quality photos would be ideal.


Tom C.



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