Thanks for commenting. I'm glad you find the photo interesting - that
is precisely the quality I look for in photos.

On clichés, I take the same view as George Orwell which is that they
are generally a substitute for thinking. He was discussing writing,
but I think it applies equally to photography. Orwell wrote a very
interesting essay about it, which you can read here if you like:
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm

Many of his ideas were worked out in '1984' as Nuspeak.

The composition and dullness in the photo are intentional. How would
you improve the composition?

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 Bob 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Jens Bladt
> Sent: 25 June 2006 13:59
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> Subject: RE: Is this a cliché?
> 
> There's nothing wrong with using clichés. We do it all the 
> time. It's a part
> of our cultural inheritance.
> Our language is almost nothing but clichés. Any common phrase 
> is a cliché.
> With out clichés there would be almost no communication possible.
> A cliché photograph may not be of great artistic value.
> Most photographs aren't. But that doesn't mean they are of no 
> interest or of
> no value.
> I could say the same about most paintings as well.
> The photograph is kinda boring - mostly because of the rather dull
> composition - putting the subject/car/van in the middle is 
> not very pleasing
> to me. There's a reddish cast in the sky, wich is not very 
> pleasing to me
> either. But this can be changed. But the main statement is still
> interesting, I think. So to me it's still an interesting 
> image. Cliché or
> not.
> I t would be even more interesting in a size where I can read 
> that it's in
> fact an ice cream truck on a deserted beach (isn't it ?).
> 
> Regards
> 
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> vegne af Tim
> Øsleby
> Sendt: 25. juni 2006 12:48
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> Emne: RE: Is this a cliché?
> 
> 
> I would not call this image a cliché.
> 
> But if it is, would that turn it into a bad photo?
> I don't think so. The main thing with an image is that it "works".
> 
> 
> Tim
> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
> 
> Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
> (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of
> > Bob W
> > Sent: 17. juni 2006 11:53
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> > Subject: Is this a cliché?
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I took this photo in Robin Hood's Bay last week:
> > http://www.web-options.com/Places/pages/P6120594.htm
> >
> > I rather like it, but at the time I took it it seemed very 
> familiar to
> > me, and I can't shake the nagging feeling that I've seen an almost
> > identical black & white photo elsewhere.
> >
> > I've searched the likeliest books I have, to no avail.
> >
> > I have also searched the Magnum site, and only found this:
> > 
>
http://www.magnumphotos.com/c/htm/CSearchZ_MAG.aspx?Stat=SearchThumb_S
> > 
>
earchZoom&o=&Total=10&FP=2736851&E=2V6DH6V3CHIK3&SID=JMGEJNTXNEL0T&Pic
> > =8&SubE=29YL5354ACP8
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/f4jl6
> >
> > But I don't think that's the one I have in mind. I have 
> tried googling
> > various terms, but haven't come up with anything. Yet I 
> still think it
> > is rather a cliché.
> >
> > Can anybody else identify a similar photo?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bob
> >
> >
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