I remember seeing reports (on luminous-landscape and other boards) that also the newer Epsons (as well as the large format Epsons) clog sometimes even in the middle of a print. My 2000 has never clogged during a print. And on my 2000 the clog problem is not with the head but with the CIS tubing (so not really an Epson printer problem but more an Epson ink problem).
Antti-Pekka ________________________________________ Antti-Pekka Virjonen Computec Oy R&D Turku Fiskarsinkatu 7 D FIN-20750 Turku Finland Puh. +358 10 264 070 GSM +358 500 789 753 Telefax +358 10 264 0777 Y-tunnus 1974184-5 Kotipaikka Helsinki www.computec.fi > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul > Stenquist > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 1:17 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Printer Recommendations? > > The newer Epsons don't seem to clog. My 2200 has never clogged in the > five years I've been using it. > Paul > On Aug 17, 2006, at 2:54 AM, Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote: > > > Hi Brendan, > > > > I am in the exactly same situation right now. I am looking at > > the Epson 4800 and the Canon IPF5000. The 5000 is pretty new > > so there is no long term information available yet (good > > source for information is the luminous-landscape forum). > > > > What interests me mostly and what I have learned by reading the > > different discussion boards, in favour of the 5000 (not much?): > > - the 5000 has a wider color gamut (more ink colors to start from) > > - with the 5000 you don't need to swap ink tanks to get matte > > optimized black or photo black > > - the 4800 (like all Epsons) seems to clog often > > - the 5000 monitors the nozzles and will use the other nozzles to > > finish the job in case some of the nozzles clog while printing a job > > - I have not yet heard of a clogged 5000 but you can replace the heads > > yourself if the clog is permanent > > - the 5000 ink tanks do not seem to have a "use before" date like the > > Epson ones (maybe they forgot?) > > > > I have not red any firm comment which would suggest the 4800 is the way > > to go, other than these, mostly based on history: > > - I have used only Epson printers myself in the past with success > > (currently 2000P with CIS... which is right now clogging terminally) > > - Epson Pigment Inks are at a later generation (Gen 3 or 4 now?) while > > the 5000 is the first Canon Pigment ink printer (this is not > > necessarily > > a bad thing) > > > > My only concern with these bigger printers is the high price of the > > big ink carts. If I remember correctly, both manuf. recommend using > > installed > > ink carts within 6 months. That recommendation would mean a LOT of > > printing > > if followed while one full set of ink carts is about $600-700(?). I > > think a full > > set of carts should be ok for 1-2 years. > > > > I am leaning towards the 5000 pretty heavily. Early 2007 will also > > bring > > the > > Canon Pigment A3+ printer (Pixma Pro 9500) which would be a more > > economical > > choise. > > > > I have the older ColorVision PrintFIX PRO Suite and have been happy > > with > > it. > > It won't produce perfect profiles but still a lot better than any other > > approach I have tried (well, the best profile I have is a commercial > > profile > > from inkjetmall.com but the self made ColorVision profiles come very > > very > > close). > > > > Antti-Pekka > > ________________________________________ > > > > Antti-Pekka Virjonen > > > > Computec Oy > > R&D Turku > > Fiskarsinkatu 7 D > > FIN-20750 Turku Finland > > > > Puh. +358 10 264 070 > > GSM +358 500 789 753 > > Telefax +358 10 264 0777 > > > > Y-tunnus 1974184-5 > > Kotipaikka Helsinki > > > > www.computec.fi > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > Of > >> Brendan MacRae > >> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 9:03 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Printer Recommendations? > >> > >> I'm going to be putting my digital darkroom together > >> soon and I've decided on everything but the printer at > >> this point. > >> > >> I want a large format ink jet and have been looking at > >> Canon and Epson. Both of the 17" wide $1800 printers > >> have gotten good reviews. I'm leaning toward the Epson > >> since I know a designer who owns an older model that > >> produces amazing prints. I've never seen anything from > >> a Canon. > >> > >> Also, does anyone else use the ColorVision Print Fix > >> Pro suite? +'s? -'s? > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> -Brendan > >> > >> > >> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Do You Yahoo!? > >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >> http://mail.yahoo.com > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> [email protected] > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > [email protected] > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
