Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
> Leica still builds - and always has built - their basic camera, the current
> versions being the M7 and MP variants, as well as a replica Barnack
> edition.  The Barnack edition is the least expensive of the three.
> 
> Yes, you can buy a dressed up Leica, and there's not a damned thing wrong
> with that.  Some people like fancier-looking cameras.  Why, right on this
> list there are some people using "designer" Pentax cameras, and Pentax has
> also made some limited edition models, such as the gold LX and one or two
> anniversary edition LX bodies.  I believe there were also some special
> bodies made for the K1000, with different focusing screens and brown
> leather coverings, which also sold for a premium.
> 
> And let's not forget some of the better-known collectible Nikons - The Gold
> Nikon FA  European Gran Prix 1984 Camera of the Year, the Gold Nikon FM
> 60th Anniversary of Nippon Kogaku,  and the Nikon FM2 Titanium Year of the
> Dog  with a total Production only 300 - more than many of the Leica
> collectibles.
> 
> Further, many of  the real collector edition Leicas are mostly contracted
> for by various organizations and, in some cases, individuals, who want to
> commemorate an event or try to generate some extra income for themselves or
> their organization.  Leica doesn't just build them without special orders. 
> For example, there's a doctor in Hong Kong who, over the years,
> commissioned Leica to make some special colors (olive drab comes to mind as
> one of them) that he resold for a premium to collectors, or just those
> users who wanted special colors.
> 
> Many Leica owners over the years have modified or customized their cameras
> to reflect their unique needs or preferences.  BFD ...  This page may
> interest you:
> 
> http://www.cameraquest.com/TAnotcoll.htm
> 
> And to perhaps anticipate a further objection, that Leicas are over priced
> or very expensive, and suited only for the rich user or collector, bear in
> mind that Leica has always been expensive.  Why people insist on bashing
> Leica as primarily a manufacturer of high-priced collectible cameras seems
> a little strange, but the nice thing is that these collectibles put money
> in Leica's coffers and allow the company to stay in business.
> 
> The Bessa is a piece of mass-produced crap based on a cheap body that
> Cosina has been using for a variety of cameras and brands for years.  As I
> said before, Leica has always been expensive.  Pick up and use a Bessa and
> spend some time with it, and do the same for your basic Leica.  The quality
> difference will be obvious.
> What makes some Canon and Nikons worth five and six times more than their
> entry level cameras?   I find the price difference extremely hard to
> believe.
> 
> 
> Shel (Leica M3 and custom modified M2 user)
> 
> 
> 
> 

Shel.

Have you ever used an R2 or R3 series Bessa? It might be an evolution of 
the plastic-fantastic Cosina SLR's, but it's a far sturdier example of 
camera design, with build quality similar to mid-range Nikon's and 
Pentax's of the late 70's and early 80's. And the viewfinder is 
extremely good (better than the M3 IMHO). Their only weakness is the 
lack of a Red Dot and a somewhat short RF baseline. If Leica had been 
bright they would have gone to Cosina and had them turn the R into a CL2 
instead of letting Cosina steal the market for RF cameras.

I've shot a Leica. I shoot Nikons. No way in hell are the current bodies 
worth what Leica wants new. Half that, maybe. Now used M3 and M2's are 
great cameras for a reasonable cost.

-Adam


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