I never "castigated Pentax." I stated my preference
and said, in effect, "wouldn't it be nice if.." since
many folks prefer one way of shooting over another. I
stated one method was cumbersome, that's all. I never
said that my method was superior; that was your
inference. Then many folks simply disagreed. Fine. I
never accused any of them of being arrogant. They
aren't, they are simply stating their preference from
experience. If that's arrogance, then every person on
this list is guilty of arrogance. 

Oh, and did I really storm onto this list? I first
subscribed so long ago I don't recall.

-Brendan


--- John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Enough of us to point out the problems inherent in
> your
> (quite frankly tiresome and arrogant) insistence
> that the
> way *you* happen to want to use your camera is the
> only
> way that any sentient being could possibly consider.
> You're by no means the first poster to storm onto
> this
> list and, without ever having tried the alternative,
> castigated Pentax for making a choice different from
> yours. If you'd claimed that the interface of the PZ
> bodies (which gave the user the choice) was what
> Pentax
> should have done, you might have found more support.
> But if they're only going to provide one way of
> working,
> then your preference for the aperture ring isn't the
> universally superior technique you seem to believe.
> 
> I *did* point out that the problem was only
> significant
> with long-ish telephoto lenses (it's an issue with
> any
> lens of 200m or greater focal length,  not just a
> 600mm).
> But still you denied that there could ever be a
> problem
> because your hand must be "near" the aperture ring.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 04:36:16PM -0700, Brendan
> MacRae wrote:
> > How many of us are using 600mm lenses...handheld
> or
> > otherwise?
> > 
> > -Brendan
> > 
> > --- John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:09:22AM -0700,
> Brendan
> > > MacRae wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > As has been pointed out many times in the
> past,
> > > > > that's
> > > > > incorrect if you're using a long-ish
> telephoto;
> > > your
> > > > > hand is nowhere near the aperture ring. 
> > > > 
> > > > "nowhere near"? If your hand is on the lens it
> is,
> > > by
> > > > pure definition, "near" the aperture ring. 
> > > > 
> > > > -Brendan
> > > 
> > > Try steadying a 600mm lens sometime (the
> recommended
> > > fashion
> > > is with your hand applying slight pressure on
> the
> > > top of the
> > > lens hood).  That's not "near" by any stretch of
> > > imagination.
> > > (And, in any case, your other hand is much
> nearer;
> > > if distance
> > > is the sole criterion you should adjust the
> aperture
> > > with your
> > > right hand).
> > > 
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