I don't see it as imposing limits, but expanding options.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
> Date: 9/25/2006 5:09:22 PM
> Subject: Re: What I'd LIke to See instead of Crap Features
>
> I certainly wouldn't want anything that introduced grain. In terms of  
> gray scale values and response, I'm not interested in duplicating  
> what film could or could not do. I would rather just experiment with  
> the full potential of the RAW information. To my mind, anything else  
> would merely impose limits.
> Paul
> On Sep 25, 2006, at 7:20 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>
> > I agree with you to an extent.  By TX, etc., mode, I was thinking more
> > along the lines of a good rendering following the spectral and grain
> > characteristics of the film, which would then be adjusted  
> > afterwards with
> > curves, levels, what have you, just as if one were working in a  
> > darkroom
> > starting with a negative developed from film which was chosen for  
> > certain
> > characteristics.  As it is now, there's no reasonable, or base,  
> > starting
> > point for a B&W conversion, although there are numerous ways of  
> > making one
> > and getting good results.  But for some - myself included - it  
> > would be
> > nice to start with something closer to the "original source" in  
> > some ways.
> > With film, the best way to optimize the results was also by eye,  
> > but you
> > had a starting place that was consistent and known. You chose it  
> > when you
> > bought the film.
> >
> > Shel
> >
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Paul Stenquist
> >
> >> That would be worthwhile if it would really work. But I think you're
> >> always going to be better off doing the conversions in post
> >> processing. As I'm sure you've seen, the conversion parameters are
> >> rarely identical for two different shots. The best way to optimize
> >> the conversion is by eye.
> >
> >
> >
> >> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> >>
> >>> This thread on facial recognition got me to thinking about what
> >>> feature I'd like to see on a good DSLR.  How about a DSLR
> >>> that can take good B&W photos, possibly taking a clue from
> >>> some of the good B&W conversion software that's out there
> >>> and offer something like Tri-X mode, Agfa 100 mode, and
> >>> Ilford mode, etc.
> >
> >
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