I don't see it as imposing limits, but expanding options. Shel
> [Original Message] > From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > Date: 9/25/2006 5:09:22 PM > Subject: Re: What I'd LIke to See instead of Crap Features > > I certainly wouldn't want anything that introduced grain. In terms of > gray scale values and response, I'm not interested in duplicating > what film could or could not do. I would rather just experiment with > the full potential of the RAW information. To my mind, anything else > would merely impose limits. > Paul > On Sep 25, 2006, at 7:20 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > I agree with you to an extent. By TX, etc., mode, I was thinking more > > along the lines of a good rendering following the spectral and grain > > characteristics of the film, which would then be adjusted > > afterwards with > > curves, levels, what have you, just as if one were working in a > > darkroom > > starting with a negative developed from film which was chosen for > > certain > > characteristics. As it is now, there's no reasonable, or base, > > starting > > point for a B&W conversion, although there are numerous ways of > > making one > > and getting good results. But for some - myself included - it > > would be > > nice to start with something closer to the "original source" in > > some ways. > > With film, the best way to optimize the results was also by eye, > > but you > > had a starting place that was consistent and known. You chose it > > when you > > bought the film. > > > > Shel > > > > > > > >> [Original Message] > >> From: Paul Stenquist > > > >> That would be worthwhile if it would really work. But I think you're > >> always going to be better off doing the conversions in post > >> processing. As I'm sure you've seen, the conversion parameters are > >> rarely identical for two different shots. The best way to optimize > >> the conversion is by eye. > > > > > > > >> Shel Belinkoff wrote: > >> > >>> This thread on facial recognition got me to thinking about what > >>> feature I'd like to see on a good DSLR. How about a DSLR > >>> that can take good B&W photos, possibly taking a clue from > >>> some of the good B&W conversion software that's out there > >>> and offer something like Tri-X mode, Agfa 100 mode, and > >>> Ilford mode, etc. > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > [email protected] > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

