Interesting point of view John. To me state of the art does not necessarily mean modern and extremely expensive. A state of the art product is a product where the engineers has put their heart and skills into making at well performing product. High end on the other hand, means a product with up to date technology where nothing is saved.
But English is not my native language, so I may be totally wrong. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Forbes Sent: 7. oktober 2006 00:24 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K10D and AF speed To me, "state of the art" means having the most modern technology. And I can't think of any camera that can be considered more up-to-date than the K10D (at the moment). "High-end" is different. A Rolls Royce is "high-end" because of its no-expense-spared design and construction. But it may not be state-of-the-art. So (IMHO) "state-of-the-art" is temporary, "high-end" is timeless. John On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:20:44 +0100, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good question John. Honestly I don't know what I meant using this term > ;-) > Higher specked, pro bodies, full frame and such. > > Thinking about it I'd say that D200 is not state of the art, either is 5D > (it is a good camera, but it is not a fine tuned refined camera). So I > believe I was referring to highest of the high class. > > BTW. In my old days as a HiFi freak I was used to referring to extremely > fine tuned and well built equipment by this term. Now I think the HiFi > freaks calls this stuff "high end". I prefer using "state of the art", > to me > it indicates craftsmanship, artistic madness, and a little dose of magic > ;-) > > I like madness ;-) > > > > Tim > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > John > Forbes > Sent: 6. oktober 2006 10:48 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: K10D and AF speed > > So what camera would you say is "state of the art"? > > John > > On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:22:07 +0100, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Yes I did. >> This video proofs or more suggests that it is fast with non USM lenses >> too. >> My only concern now is the IQ. If my expectations about IQ are fulfilled >> the >> K10D is a milestone. The *istD was important indeed as a statement. The >> K10D >> looks like a more refined camera. Not state of the art, but very >> competitive >> in its segment. >> >> >> Tim >> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> Thibouille >> Sent: 5. oktober 2006 18:44 >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: K10D and AF speed >> >> Did you read my report? >> >> I dunno about "USM" speed of course but I can tell you that AF with >> DA18-55 at 55 (f/5.6) is *at least* 2-3 times faster than a D with >> NiMH. >> >> 2006/10/5, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> This is not my main concern about the K10D, but I've been thinking a >>> bit >>> about it. >>> I don't know how scientific this video at YouTube.com, comparing Sony >> Alpha, >>> Canon 400D and Samsung GX10 is, but it should tell us something. >>> >> > http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=J4za9azUHz4&eurl=&iurl=http%3A//sjl-st >>> >> > atic4.sjl.youtube.com/vi/J4za9azUHz4/2.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskKw9m4IDnBGvql-DscnV3K >>> S >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/kg9hy >>> >>> I don't worry about AF speed anymore :-) >>> It seem to be way faster than the competitiors. >>> >>> >>> Tim >>> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> >> >> > > > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
