There is a limit on how much we can do when we cant even agree on the necessity of the actions. We will have to deal with the rest when we know more. I think we should do a lot more right now, but a little is better than nothing.
I have chosen to live in a place where I usually do not need any other transport than my feet. It would be great if everybody could do that but it would require re-planning most of our cities... DagT Den 27. des. 2006 kl. 22.29 skrev Toine: > And what if living just a little bit less comfortable or signing Kyoto > isn't enough? > Toine > > On 12/27/06, DagT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> OK, actually the question is fairly simple. If there is just 10% >> chance that we are ruining our environment. Should we just take our >> chances or are the consequences of those 10% so bad that we should be >> a little careful just in case? >> >> It´s a little bit like the discussion we had about helmets. Most of >> the time we don´t crash, but many still use them. Only in this case >> we are not the only victims if we fail. >> >> Are we willing to be just a little bit less comfortable to reduce the >> chances of ruining our world? >> >> DagT >> >> Den 27. des. 2006 kl. 18.27 skrev graywolf: >> >>> Some of the ice seems to be melting, some of it seems to be getting >>> thicker. I have found nothing to confirm that the ice cap averages >>> over >>> a mile. I do know that it is over a mile think in some places, but >>> that >>> is hardly an average. Any realistic information I have found >>> about the >>> ice caps overall melting faster than normal can be translated to >>> "Who >>> knows?". Remember where the ice caps extended to 10-20 thousand >>> years >>> ago; whoops, who can remember that far back? >>> >>> And interesting, but related, aside: We think of forests as >>> resources >>> and recreational areas. To prehistoric (before metal tools) man they >>> were a real threat slowly encroaching upon their tiny fields and >>> their >>> hunting areas driving them into the recently melted glacial tundras >>> along with the game they depended upon. For many thousands of years >>> mankind was caught between the retreating glaciers and the advancing >>> forests. The evil forest of folktale was very real. And that long >>> slow >>> war may be the cause of the rise of modern man as the dominant >>> species. >>> >>> >>> >>> John Francis wrote: >>> >>>> The problem comes with the Antarctic ice sheets (and, to a small >>>> extent, >>>> glaciers and snow/ice cover in other parts of the world). The >>>> average >>>> thickness of the Antarctic ice is well over a mile. Even the >>>> smaller >>>> West Antarctic ice sheet contains enough ice to raise mean sea >>>> level >>>> by 20 feet. The larger East Antarctic sheet contains an order of >>>> magnitude more ice - enough to raise sea levels by over 150 feet! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

