Or just living where we do. I live in a relatively hot climate, so the air conditioner runs quite a bit during the summer. The amount of crap that gets burnt just to keep us "cool" is probably much more than I use in fossil fuels in other areas of my daily life, like driving. The same with people who live in extreme northern climates, like Norway, Sweden, Finland, Siberia, etc. These folks have the opposite problem, they have to heat their homes in the winter. How much fossil fuel is used to do that. Should we all move to more moderate parts of the earth? :)
rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I was wondering when this thread might turn to the tobacco habits of > so many of our European friends. There are those among them who are > quick to criticize the vehicle habits of Americans but staunchly > defend their right to burn tobacco leaves all day long. A strange > dichotomy. > Paul > On Dec 28, 2006, at 8:21 PM, Tom C wrote: > > >>>Aren't we going OT now? >>> >>>I have an urge to say that I don't feel that my smoking habits are >>>the real >>>issue. To me, this seems like a smokescreen (pun intended) >>>cowering the real >>>debate. >>> >>>But by all means, bash on if you feel uncomfortable debating. >>> >>> >>>Tim >> >>How can you go OT on an OT? :-) >> >>Actually I think Bill's point is relevant. Why? Because we tend to >>view our own behavior as acceptable and normal and expect others to >>do the changing. However when the finger points back at us, we're >>uncomfortable. >> >>While little old you smoking X cigarettes a day may have a >>negligible effect on pollution on a global scale (just like other >>single persons taking long showers or driving gas-guzzling SUV's), >>it has a much larger effect when we shrink the picture down a >>little or when we look at the cumulative effect. >> >>Your behavior is clearly dichotomous... Wanting to save the planet >>while at the same time almost assuredly shortening the time span of >>your existence on it, both lessening your time to enjoy it and the >>time you might have to make a difference. >> >>The cost in health care and missed productivity due to smoking >>related ailments is huge. Next calculate how much time and energy >>(human and fossil fuel) is wasted annually in an industry that >>essentially provides a delivery method for a drug that induces a >>slow suicide. Then there's the smoking mothers whose babies may >>have future health issues and possible lower IQ's, putting a bigger >>drain on health care and education systems. >> >>I'm not bashing you. I'm not criticizing you. You work in the >>social welfare field though and are sure aware of the implications >>of one's personal behavior. OK, I just had to get that little one >>in. :-) >> >> >> >>Tom C. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>On 12/28/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "Tim Øsleby" Subject: RE: Doomsday is coming upon us? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Agreed. That's why I smoke outside rain or cold. You could argue >>>>>>that I >>>>>>pollute the environment. That's true, but I don't think it is >>>>>>significant. >>>>> >>>>>Tim, this is pretty much the argument that you have been on the >>>>>other side >>>>>of. >>>>>No one person makes a significant impact, so why should any one >>>>>person >>>>>change their habits, be it driving a large vehicle, taking long >>>>>hot showers >>>>>or whatever else they do that is environmentally harmful? >>>>> >>>>>William Robb >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>PDML@pdml.net >>>>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>PDML@pdml.net >>>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> >>>DagT >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>PDML@pdml.net >>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>PDML@pdml.net >>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> >>-- >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>PDML@pdml.net >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- Someone handed me a picture and said, "This is a picture of me when I was younger." Every picture of you is when you were younger. "...Here's a picture of me when I'm older." Where'd you get that camera man? - Mitch Hedberg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
