This is getting a little too personal for my comfort, guys. Stop attacking each other on such a low level. If you're both so intelligent, put that to work in your arguments. Otherwise, take it off-list.
Mike On 12/29/06, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You kind of left out the part about my passing the GED cold, the 10 or > 20 tech certificates I have obtained, and the fact I have the equivalent > of a BSEE. I do have some college but there are too many people like you > for me to be comfortable there. However, I am proud of walking out of > school in the tenth grade, when I in fact had the equivalent of a good > university education. My teachers were, like you, stupid in the extreme. > They thought a piece of paper was more important than understanding, > they also lied about everything rather than admit they did not > understand what they were allegedly teaching. I do have a lot of faults, > but, on the other hand, I am not a fucking queer! > > > > Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > On Dec 28, 2006, at 11:12 PM, David Savage wrote: > > > >> Touchy, touchy. I wasn't attacking your intelligence. Simply saying > >> that an education doesn't make you a smart person. > > > > I never said that it did. Being educated has nothing to do with being > > smart. It has everything to do with being trained in how to look for > > and find information. > > > > I did insinuate that someone who seems to hold proudly that he does > > not have a high school education does not have the credentials to be > > believable as an environmental scientist. This is not a comment about > > how smart he might be, it's a condemnation of his opinions as being > > credible in this field of knowledge. > > > >> I work in a field where I come into contact with a lot of "educated" > >> people. While most of them are smart, there a also quite a few who > >> aren't, no matter what the piece of paper hanging on the wall > >> proclaims. > > > > Never said otherwise. Attacking education by assuming that it is > > equivalent to intelligence is a gross error. > > > >> I also have a lot to do with people who'd be considered "uneducated", > >> boilermakers, machinists, plant operators etc. they are some of the > >> smartest, most practical people I know. Of course some are as thick as > >> 2 bricks. > > > > I was taught many things by these same people. Mechanics, > > photography, woodworking, shooting, etc. In fact, I visited three of > > these old mentors on my trip around the country recently, as we have > > remained fast friends through the past 35 years of my life and I > > value their thoughts very highly, wanted to see them as they are no > > longer in the best of health (they're in their 80s-90s now). > > > >> You sir seem to have no problem lording his education over others. > >> > >> By saying what you've said below, you've confirmed my point about > >> intellectual superiority. To this thick headed half wit, that makes > >> you a snob. > >> > >> David (I don't have a university education, I must be stupid) Savage > > > > I don't "lord" anything. I will, however, point out that opinion is > > not information whenever I see nonsense being paraded as such. Any > > person, no matter how well read, "smart", self-educated or whatever, > > or what a delightful person they might be, is not credible to speak > > of their opinion as factually based when they can't even take the 20 > > seconds necessary to confirm a basic fact of geography, to point out > > just one example of why I felt it necessary to make the comment. > > > > I didn't know for sure how thick the ice on Antarctica was or assume > > that my dim recollection was correct, so I looked it up. It doesn't > > require an education to do that, but it's what someone who is > > educated ... that is, trained in and used to researching/verifying > > facts (note that this says nothing about university or degrees) ... > > does as a matter of course before spouting off and assuming that what > > they think they know is fact. > > > > And yes, I am "touchy" about listening to stupid comments and stupid > > opinions which are misinformation. Touchy isn't the correct word, > > however: exasperated and frustrated are closer to the mark. Irritated > > and impatient when people accept this kind of bumpkin logic as truth. > > > > Godfrey > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- -- Cheers, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MichaelHamilton.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
