In the mega-pixel wars as sensor density gets higher the noise barrier
gets lower. Unless you can to live with loss of detail as noise
reduction gets :"stronger". That does seem to cause a logical problem,
but who ever said marketing was based on logic.
Adam Maas wrote:
> That depends on exactly how demanding the photographer is, and in what ways.
>
> DX format can satisfy very demanding photographers, as long as
> performance at the max ISO is not the primary consideration (Note also
> that the max ISO on a 5D is 1600, H[3200] is actually a software push
> in-camera, as L[50] is a software pull, you can of course do the same
> thing in your RAW converter).
>
> It all depends on exactly what you want. DX is the best option for the
> vast majority of photographers. Those who need max high-ISO performance
> and high resolutions go FF, those who need ultra-high resolution at
> lower ISO's go with a MF Digiback or LF scanning back. There's a hell of
> a lot more to the equation than just the noise barrier.
>
> -Adam
>
>
>
>
> P. J. Alling wrote:
>
>> APS-C cannot, unfortunately, satisfy the most demanding photographers.
>> Pentax has already run up against the "noise" barrier with the K10D.
>> They've been forced to abandon 3200 ISO sensitivity. (Nikon's choice
>> was to use extremely strong noise reduction, with loss of detail).
>> We're dealing with a law of physics here.
>>
>> K.Takeshita wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/01/07 1:45 PM, "John Forbes", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> If every other manufacture brings out a FF body Pentax will as well or
>>>>> they _will_ _die_. Simple as that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> But the others won't. Simple as that.
>>>>
>>>> And actually it won't affect Pentax. Any "full-frame" bodies would be
>>>> much more expensive, and therefore in a separate market segment that
>>>> Pentax doesn't address. Canon would suffer from the competition, not
>>>> Pentax.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> There was an interview article with Nikon on FF subject. Among other things
>>> they said, they have been observing Canon 5D sales for a while but it never
>>> went beyond 5% of total DSLR sales. FF sensor cost in case of 5D is still
>>> over 6 times that of APS-C. Nikon says that they are always watching the
>>> market demand but for now, they do not see FF cameras being popular. In the
>>> meantime, DX lenses (their DA equivalent) are becoming ever popular and
>>> settling almost as default DSLR format.
>>> Despite some speculations that their F mount is too small for FF DSLR, that
>>> is a myth. They have sufficient margin left for FF digital lenses.
>>>
>>> So, my guess is that before FF sensor cost comes down sufficiently, APS-C
>>> sensors design would have progress farther and satisfy the need of most
>>> demanding photographers.
>>> Besides, even if they offer FF DSLR, that does not at all mean that they
>>> suddenly discontinue APS-C lenses. I am sure they offer different sizes as
>>> two different formats, i.e., FF is NOT an upgrade to APS-C.
>>>
>>> I for one would much prefer compact size of DA lenses and bodies.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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