Yes we carpet bombed empty jungle. The destroyed city shots we saw from
Vietnam were mostly, well what you'd expect propaganda, imagine that lies
from a regime that completely controls the press.
At the end of the American involvement in Vietnam, the average age of a NVA
(That's North Vietnamese Army), Master Sargent was 16. That's an age of 16 for
the highest ranking NCO in an Army. At that point we declared victory gave
the war to the South Vietnamese and pulled out. The Vietcong were wiped out
during the Tiet offensive. They weren't a factor in the war after that ill
fated
attack. The war was prosecuted by the North Vietnamese Army from then
on. (Some
think that this was a plan by the North to insure that they would have no
effective
opposition after the war, but that's another story).
As you said it is important to get the facts straight and apparently you
are no
historian.
The North Vietnamese Army a bit over two years after the US left Vietnam
staged an armored
offensive in the best traditions of Patten and Rommel, blitzkrieging down
highway one in
Vietnam. Our congress refused to send aid to the South, not one of our
finest hours.
It's good that you don't make assertions about your knowledge
of Korea.
You draw parallels where there are none. You get your facts wrong. A
principled
pacifist I can understand. A person calling for restraint for the sake of
innocent
victims I can understand. You I believe I'm beginning to understand.
At 11:17 AM 9/14/2001 +0800, Nenad wrote:
>Not sure about Korea but the as far as Vietnam is concerned I have to bring
>to your attention that the US carpet bombed North Vietnam indiscriminately
>dropping a considerably higher tonnage of bombs than on Germany in WW2.
>They also used napalm and dropped highly toxic defoliant, the infamous
>"agent orange" to destroy the jungles that harboured the Vietcong.
>
>I hate to point it out but it was all for nothing as the Vietcong did not
>give up and in the end won anyway.
>
>No offence intended but it is important to get the facts right before
>suggesting a course of action for the present.
>
>Nenad
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Daniel J. Matyola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:14 PM
>Subject: Re: Bombing Japan - private
>
>
> > I disagree most strongly, sir.
> >
> > These terrorist, and those who attacked the WTC previously and various
>embassies, have
> > the full support of several nations. These states provide them with
>shelter, money,
> > training and encouragement. The religious leaders and political leaders
>of these
> > countries tell them the US is absolute evil, and promise them eternal
>glory in heaven
> > if they die killing Americans. THEY have made civilian populations the
>target, just as
> > Hitler did. Giving them safety only fuels their beliefs that the US is
>weak, and that
> > God will help them to prevail if they persist in this course.
> >
> > These "civilized rules of war" prevented the US from attacking the source
>of the
> > opposing forces in Korea and Viet Nam, with disastrous results for our
>American
> > troops. This time, they have attacked our civilian population. To
>respond by rounding
> > up a few of the "usual suspects" and ending it there will lead to an
>enormous tragedy
> > in this country.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > Frank Theriault wrote:
> >
> > > The subject of this thread was brought up due to many calls to punish
>not only the
> > > perpetrators of yesterday's horrid deeds, but the countries who "harbour
>and
> > > finance" such monsters.
> > > As many on both sides of this argument have said, reacting to, and
>fighting
> > > terrorism, requires a new set of rules. And one of the new realities is
>that
> > > bombing civilians of the country that the terrorists may have come from
>will not
> > > deter them. It will result in dead innocents, and a more resolved bunch
>of
> > > terrorists.
> >
> > --
> > Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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