This report, which was made public all over the world several days ago, was denied by the subject country (not the US). The report said that the subject country was planning to attack nuclear-weapons-production sites with tactical nuclear weapons. As nujclear weapons go, tactical nukes are relatively low-powered devices, but they are capable of destroying well-fortified underground sites. Again, the alleged planner of the attacks has denied that any such strategy exists. That of course doesn't guarantee anything. Paul -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Markus Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In lthe Monday New Zurich newspaper I have read that a nation (which name I > will not mention here for good reason) has concrete plans to attack 3 atom > fabric locations in the Iran with nuclear bombs. > > *Some* people can't wait for WW III it seems :-( > Markus > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > P. J. Alling > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:34 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > > > There is a matter of proportion however nuclear weapons are more the > province of governments. A single person with a gun is unlikely to kill > a lot of people before they're stopped, (by my definition of a lot > anyway). A government with an army and a lot of guns, or a single > nuclear weapon can kill a whole lot of people. For that reason alone I > believe logic dictates tis better for individuals to be armed and > governments to be disarmed. > > Tom C wrote: > > Guns kill just like nuclear weapons kill. In fact guns have killed more > > people than nuclear weapons... so far. > > > > In retrospect, *probably* both inventions were a bad idea. They have both > > led to untold injury, death, and suffering. Their purpose is largely, to > > kill, unlike other inventions which may endanger life. > > > > Am I anti-gun? No. Just making a point. Sure this is simplistic, but > the > > truth often is. > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > >> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:35:12 -0500 > >> > >> Sorry, I must disagree. An armed victim is more likely to defend > >> herself than a disarmed victim. To paraphrase a member of the English > >> House of Lords in the losing battle against the handgun ban in GB. > >> 'Firearms are used to defend the weak against the strong. To restrict > >> their use by citizens is to deny them the right to self defense. > >> Governments may have the power to do that, but should not have the > >> right.' Apparently the British Government no longer believes in the > >> Citizens right of self defense. Do you? > >> > >> > >> William Robb wrote: > >> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Hand guns don't cause crime, if that were true once Great Britain > >>>> > >> banned > >> > >>>> all hand guns, (and made shotgun ownership much more difficult), > >>>> > >> violent > >> > >>>> crime would have been eliminated, in fact it increased, (violent crime > >>>> rates in England are now higher than in the US). I doubt that > >>>> > >> smuggling > >> > >>>> firearms is the cause of violent crime in Canada, it's a symptom of > >>>> something else. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Straw man argument, Peter. > >>> Gun crimes are more likely to end up with the victim being more > >>> > >> seriously > >> > >>> hurt or dead than other types of weapons crimes, and can be used at > >>> > >> range > >> > >>> where the victim has less chance of self defence. > >>> > >>> William Robb > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> -- > >> -- > >> > >> The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. > >> -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> [email protected] > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -- > > The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. > -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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