Oh, I agree that there were precursors to the current Native Americans, 
there's a fare amount of evidence, of them, but global warming killing 
them off, really.  That's what's silly.

Gonz wrote:
> What's silly about it.  Its not talking about the native americans that 
> were here when the Europeans arrived.  Its talking about their 
> predecessors.  How do you explain their archeological remains?
>
> rg
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>> That's just silly...
>>
>> Gonz wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> A book I'm reading right now indicates that the evidence points to these 
>>> first settlers to have been done in by.....drum roll please.... "Global 
>>> Warming".  Yup, the melting of the last Ice Age drove all the 
>>> elephant-like creatures and huge jumbo bison further north and 
>>> eventually to extinction.  The native humans could not adapt, and they 
>>> died off.  Apparently they had no mongoloid features, so they were not 
>>> the same race of people as the later settlers.
>>>
>>> rg
>>>
>>>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>>>> I think that describes many "Native American's" quite well  There is 
>>>> some evidence that those who emigrated from Asia during the last ice age 
>>>> weren't the first, but it doesn't fit the stereotype so this evidence is 
>>>> sometimes suppressed.  The current natives may have actually displaced 
>>>> earlier residents of this continent, thus depriving them of ultimate 
>>>> victim hood. Personally I  find victim hood to be  a crock, you live 
>>>> with the world you're given, but some people make it their carriers.
>>>>
>>>> Brendan MacRae wrote:
>>>>
>>>>    
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Well, yes, good point.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I was referring to the point of view of Nativists
>>>>> who claim to be "true Americans," vis-a-vis their
>>>>> fellow immigrants. The idea that it's "those others"
>>>>> that endager "us" rather than the point of view of
>>>>> true Native Americans (to whom all whites were a
>>>>> threat) which is what you describe. Nativism is,
>>>>> paridoxically, a construct that doesn't apply to them
>>>>> since it describes only those who tout a dubious claim
>>>>> of originality. 
>>>>>
>>>>> -Brendan
>>>>>
>>>>> --- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
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>>>>>> I think it has been.  Once the Europeans came here,
>>>>>> Eden became endangered
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> [Original Message]
>>>>>>> From: Brendan MacRae 
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> The idea that America is an "endangered
>>>>>>> Eden." It isn't, of course. It never has been. 
>>>>>>>     
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