Oh, I agree that there were precursors to the current Native Americans, there's a fare amount of evidence, of them, but global warming killing them off, really. That's what's silly.
Gonz wrote: > What's silly about it. Its not talking about the native americans that > were here when the Europeans arrived. Its talking about their > predecessors. How do you explain their archeological remains? > > rg > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> That's just silly... >> >> Gonz wrote: >> >> >>> A book I'm reading right now indicates that the evidence points to these >>> first settlers to have been done in by.....drum roll please.... "Global >>> Warming". Yup, the melting of the last Ice Age drove all the >>> elephant-like creatures and huge jumbo bison further north and >>> eventually to extinction. The native humans could not adapt, and they >>> died off. Apparently they had no mongoloid features, so they were not >>> the same race of people as the later settlers. >>> >>> rg >>> >>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I think that describes many "Native American's" quite well There is >>>> some evidence that those who emigrated from Asia during the last ice age >>>> weren't the first, but it doesn't fit the stereotype so this evidence is >>>> sometimes suppressed. The current natives may have actually displaced >>>> earlier residents of this continent, thus depriving them of ultimate >>>> victim hood. Personally I find victim hood to be a crock, you live >>>> with the world you're given, but some people make it their carriers. >>>> >>>> Brendan MacRae wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Well, yes, good point. >>>>> >>>>> But I was referring to the point of view of Nativists >>>>> who claim to be "true Americans," vis-a-vis their >>>>> fellow immigrants. The idea that it's "those others" >>>>> that endager "us" rather than the point of view of >>>>> true Native Americans (to whom all whites were a >>>>> threat) which is what you describe. Nativism is, >>>>> paridoxically, a construct that doesn't apply to them >>>>> since it describes only those who tout a dubious claim >>>>> of originality. >>>>> >>>>> -Brendan >>>>> >>>>> --- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I think it has been. Once the Europeans came here, >>>>>> Eden became endangered >>>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> Shel >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> [Original Message] >>>>>>> From: Brendan MacRae >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The idea that America is an "endangered >>>>>>> Eden." It isn't, of course. It never has been. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> Do You Yahoo!? >>>>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>>>> http://mail.yahoo.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

