Well there certainly was a period of global warming following the  
last ice age. Whether or not it had anything to do with the demise of  
this ancient civilization is obviously uncertain.
Paul
On Jan 10, 2007, at 10:43 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> Oh, I agree that there were precursors to the current Native  
> Americans,
> there's a fare amount of evidence, of them, but global warming killing
> them off, really.  That's what's silly.
>
> Gonz wrote:
>> What's silly about it.  Its not talking about the native americans  
>> that
>> were here when the Europeans arrived.  Its talking about their
>> predecessors.  How do you explain their archeological remains?
>>
>> rg
>>
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> That's just silly...
>>>
>>> Gonz wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> A book I'm reading right now indicates that the evidence points  
>>>> to these
>>>> first settlers to have been done in by.....drum roll please....  
>>>> "Global
>>>> Warming".  Yup, the melting of the last Ice Age drove all the
>>>> elephant-like creatures and huge jumbo bison further north and
>>>> eventually to extinction.  The native humans could not adapt,  
>>>> and they
>>>> died off.  Apparently they had no mongoloid features, so they  
>>>> were not
>>>> the same race of people as the later settlers.
>>>>
>>>> rg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I think that describes many "Native American's" quite well   
>>>>> There is
>>>>> some evidence that those who emigrated from Asia during the  
>>>>> last ice age
>>>>> weren't the first, but it doesn't fit the stereotype so this  
>>>>> evidence is
>>>>> sometimes suppressed.  The current natives may have actually  
>>>>> displaced
>>>>> earlier residents of this continent, thus depriving them of  
>>>>> ultimate
>>>>> victim hood. Personally I  find victim hood to be  a crock, you  
>>>>> live
>>>>> with the world you're given, but some people make it their  
>>>>> carriers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brendan MacRae wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, yes, good point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I was referring to the point of view of Nativists
>>>>>> who claim to be "true Americans," vis-a-vis their
>>>>>> fellow immigrants. The idea that it's "those others"
>>>>>> that endager "us" rather than the point of view of
>>>>>> true Native Americans (to whom all whites were a
>>>>>> threat) which is what you describe. Nativism is,
>>>>>> paridoxically, a construct that doesn't apply to them
>>>>>> since it describes only those who tout a dubious claim
>>>>>> of originality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Brendan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think it has been.  Once the Europeans came here,
>>>>>>> Eden became endangered
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [Original Message]
>>>>>>>> From: Brendan MacRae
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The idea that America is an "endangered
>>>>>>>> Eden." It isn't, of course. It never has been.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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