Illustrates what exactly? Unless he compares to his best 6x7 or larger results what is there to see? jco
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:44 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Film vs. Digital - not a religion Excellent, Bruce. That illustrates exactly what I meant. G On Jan 21, 2007, at 5:50 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: > Hello Jens, > > Sorry this is more like 40 people shot on the *istD, with DA 16-45 > lens > > ISO 400, 1/90 sec @ f/11 > > Here is the full shot to give you some perspective: > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3214.htm > > Here is a crop of one person at 100% (no resizing, just cropped from > full size original) http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3214a.htm > > I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions. > > -- > Best regards, > Bruce > > > Sunday, January 21, 2007, 2:45:17 PM, you wrote: > > JB> I must admit I haven't done much work to the digital files. > JB> I did sharpen them, though, but that didin't help much due the > the low > JB> resolution. These crops were somthing like 100x100 pixel. > JB> That's not a lot, is it? > JB> Up rez'ing them wouldn't help either, I'm afriad. > JB> More exposure would perhaps have helped a too, but still not > enough, I > JB> believe. > > JB> Of cource it's not quite fair comparing af 16-24mm sensor image > to a 58x58mm > JB> slide. > JB> I would certainly not have used 35mm film for a group shot like > this either. > JB> I will, however, try to make group shots with the K10D, just to > see how much > JB> difference 66,7% more pixels will actually make. > JB> I will, however, certainly bring some Velvia, a 6x6 camera with > a Xenotar > JB> lens too. Just in case :-) > > sagt digiorgi: >> JB> You've stated you are producing a group shot for the web, not for >> JB> printing. You put a bunch of unexposed, crappily rendered JPEG >> clips >> JB> up as comparison to your scanned and sharpened 6x7 clips, at >> double >> JB> the size they'll appear compared to the illustration here: >> >>>>> This one wasn done with a Pentacon Six: >>>>> http://www.jensbladt.dk/Nykoege/images/Byraad-gruppe-20x30-web.jpg >> >> JB> to say that it won't be good enough. That's just ridiculous, >> Jens. >> >> JB> Learn digital exposure and rendering first. Then complain that it >> JB> won't be adequate quality if it isn't for the purpose at hand. >> >> JB> If I had the time, I would set up a test shot and let you be the >> JB> judge. I have no photographs of 30 person groups to work with, >> JB> unfortunately ... They're not something I've had occasion to >> produce >> JB> in the past 30 years. >> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

