Your mistaken here, even the worlds greatest technical and artistic photographer cant polish a turd. If the camera/lens combination doesnt have high enough resolution you simply cannot achieve the results in large prints you can with higher than 6MP aps formats.. jco
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Francis Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:26 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Film vs. Digital - not a religion My conclusion is that in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing even a small-frame 6MP DSLR is more than capable of delivering the results. I'm not surprised that someone who is used to group photography can come up with an example like this. Of course that's not going to stop the endless hand-wringing, comparisons of poorly-exposed (or poorly scanned) images, etc. It's a lot easier to blame the equipment ... On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 05:50:17PM -0800, Bruce Dayton wrote: > Hello Jens, > > Sorry this is more like 40 people shot on the *istD, with DA 16-45 > lens > > ISO 400, 1/90 sec @ f/11 > > Here is the full shot to give you some perspective: > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3214.htm > > Here is a crop of one person at 100% (no resizing, just cropped from > full size original) http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3214a.htm > > I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions. > > -- > Best regards, > Bruce > > > Sunday, January 21, 2007, 2:45:17 PM, you wrote: > > JB> I must admit I haven't done much work to the digital files. I did > JB> sharpen them, though, but that didin't help much due the the low > JB> resolution. These crops were somthing like 100x100 pixel. That's > JB> not a lot, is it? Up rez'ing them wouldn't help either, I'm > JB> afriad. More exposure would perhaps have helped a too, but still > JB> not enough, I believe. > > JB> Of cource it's not quite fair comparing af 16-24mm sensor image to > JB> a 58x58mm slide. I would certainly not have used 35mm film for a > JB> group shot like this either. I will, however, try to make group > JB> shots with the K10D, just to see how much difference 66,7% more > JB> pixels will actually make. I will, however, certainly bring some > JB> Velvia, a 6x6 camera with a Xenotar lens too. Just in case :-) > > JB> Regards > > JB> Jens Bladt > JB> Nytarkort / Greeting Card: > JB> http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html > > JB> http://www.jensbladt.dk > JB> +45 56 63 77 11 > JB> +45 23 43 85 77 > JB> Skype: jensbladt248 > > JB> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > JB> Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne > JB> af Godfrey DiGiorgi > JB> Sendt: 21. januar 2007 23:13 > JB> Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > JB> Emne: Re: Film vs. Digital - not a religion > > > JB> You've stated you are producing a group shot for the web, not for > JB> printing. You put a bunch of unexposed, crappily rendered JPEG > JB> clips up as comparison to your scanned and sharpened 6x7 clips, at > JB> double the size they'll appear compared to the illustration here: > > >>> This one wasn done with a Pentacon Six: > >>> http://www.jensbladt.dk/Nykoege/images/Byraad-gruppe-20x30-web.jpg > > JB> to say that it won't be good enough. That's just ridiculous, Jens. > > JB> Learn digital exposure and rendering first. Then complain that it > JB> won't be adequate quality if it isn't for the purpose at hand. > > JB> If I had the time, I would set up a test shot and let you be the > JB> judge. I have no photographs of 30 person groups to work with, > JB> unfortunately ... They're not something I've had occasion to > JB> produce in the past 30 years. > > JB> G > > > JB> -- > JB> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > JB> [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > JB> -- > JB> No virus found in this incoming message. > JB> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > JB> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.3/642 - Release Date: > JB> 01/20/2007 22:31 > > JB> -- > JB> No virus found in this outgoing message. > JB> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > JB> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.3/642 - Release Date: > JB> 01/20/2007 22:31 > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
