To go to a larger sensor would cause a huge price increase. That's why we're happy here :-). Canon still sells the 8 megapixel 30D for more than their 10 megapixel consumer model, and they sell a lot of them. Anyway, looking at the lens roadmap for 2007 and beyond, it's obvious that only DA is in the near future. Paul -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It's obvious that whether one calls it a "megapixel war" or not, that > manufacturers will continue to produce cameras with greater and greater > megapixel resolution, within the limits of noise handling and physics, as > cost comes down. > > To not to so is to relegate oneself to a has-been in the camera business. > > To deny that, is to ignore the obvious. > > Most advanced amateurs seem happy with 10MP, because the cost of those > cameras is all that most advance amateurs can afford at the present time, > and that's what's being released in their price range. You were happy with > your *ist D, but when the K10D came out, you bought it. > > Have you asked most advanced amateurs? :-) > > > Tom C. > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D... > >Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:40:47 +0000 > > > >And many still are. > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > >From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Two years ago they were happy with six to eight. > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I'm not sure that there is a megapixel war. Most advanced amateurs > >seem quite > > > happy with 10 megapixels. > > > > Paul > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > > > From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > >> To release a camera that doesn't keep up in the megapixil wars or one > > > >> that does with bad high ISO performance would be marketing suicide. > > > >> Take your choice. I expect that they'll release promise and release > >the > > > >> lenses they need to fill in the line and you'll be happy. > > > >> > > > >> Paul Stenquist wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> They've never promised DFA lenses in short focal lengths, only in > >the > > > >>> 300 to 600 range. I just don't see them introducing a camera that > >can't > > > >>> use the new DA* lenses at the same time the DA* lenses go on sale. > >That > > > >>> would be marketing suicide. > > > >>> Paul > > > >>> On Feb 2, 2007, at 12:05 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> A 1.3x crop would be covered by most of the existing DA lenses. I > > > >>>> could > > > >>>> see them with a warning just like the flash warning built into the > > > >>>> ZX-5n > > > >>>> when you used a lens, (or just using a focal length on a zoom), > >that > > > >>>> would cause the Flash to Vignette. Sure it's a stopgap but they > >also > > > >>>> have a promise of the D FA lenses waiting in the wings. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Paul Stenquist wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> It would obviously have to be an image circle that worked with the > > > >>>>> current DA lenses. The FAs are almost all out of production and > >new > > > >>>>> DAs are being introduced all the time. They won't introduce a > >camera > > > >>>>> that has no lens support. > > > >>>>> Paul > > > >>>>> On Feb 1, 2007, at 10:49 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> This will > > > >>>>>>> almost certainly necissitate a lower crop factor. More likely > >~1.3x > > > >>>>>>> than full-frame, though. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> I've been expecting something like this for some time. If they > > > >>>>>> intend > > > >>>>>> it to be anything other than marketing hype that is. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Mark Roberts wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> P. J. Alling wrote: > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> From DP Review post > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> * The release of the 645D is postponed in order to priorities > >on > > > >>>>>>>>> DSLRs > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> The wait begins to look infinite. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> If the rumours of the next canon being 22MP are accurate (or > >even > > > >>>>>>> close), that would explain the delay. "Infinite" delay might be > >the > > > >>>>>>> best course of action unless they can go straight to 30MP. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp? > > > >>>>>>>> forum=1036&message=21896693 > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> To present new DSLR's" at PMA seems very optimistic. How about > > > >>>>>>> "announce" new DSLR's? I expect the K1D (or whatever it ends up > > > >>>>>>> being > > > >>>>>>> called) to be announced some time this year, but "presented", > >even > > > >>>>>>> under glass? I'd be very surprised. I'd love to be wrong, > >though... > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> There have long been rumours of Pentax working on their own CMOS > > > >>>>>>> sensor. Given the continuing megapixel wars (Canon going over > >17MP > > > >>>>>>> and > > > >>>>>>> Nikon going to 15-16 MP), I'm guessing it'll be around 15MP. > >This > > > >>>>>>> will > > > >>>>>>> almost certainly necissitate a lower crop factor. More likely > >~1.3x > > > >>>>>>> than full-frame, though. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. > > > >>>>>> -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > >>>>>> [email protected] > > > >>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> -- > > > >>>> -- > > > >>>> > > > >>>> The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. > > > >>>> -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> -- > > > >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > >>>> [email protected] > > > >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> -- > > > >> -- > > > >> > > > >> The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. > > > >> -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > >> [email protected] > > > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > -- > > > > > > The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. > > > -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael > > > > > > > > > -- > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > [email protected] > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > >-- > >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >[email protected] > >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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