Paul, I am not sure if you want to discuss this further, but if you do .. and please don't take this as a personal affront. That is not the intent.
> ... The original name of the > series was "Trailer Park Princess." It was meant to be a study of the > woman rather than the lifestyle or the location. It was a role-playing > exercise. It was a role-playing exercise. ... Setting that as the title of the series, or the conceptual basis for the series, implies either a characterization, a exaggeration into caricature, or a contrast of 'the princess' with 'the trailer park'. So if it was to be a study of the woman and of role playing, how could you present the study without relation to the lifestyle or location suggested by the title? There's nothing wrong with the photos in and of themselves, but to my eye the set looks more to be a modeling shoot of a young woman without relation to the context implied by the title. The cues which would lead me to see it as 'fantasy role playing' are either too subtle or not present, where the sense of reality required of a characterization ... of an actual person living in these circumstances ... lacks sufficient context to satisfy what I'm looking for when led by the title. In other words, the set as shown does not give me ground to believe in it, or the grounds to 'suspend disbelief' and accept it as "the princess who lives in a trailer park". In fewer words, the pictures look good but the story seems askew. ;-) I don't know about a debate on "making fun of the indigent". That seems a bit over-much for the magnitude of the series, to me. G On Mar 3, 2007, at 8:17 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > I didn't set out to depict trailer park life. The original name of the > series was "Trailer Park Princess." It was meant to be a study of the > woman rather than the lifestyle or the location. It was a role-playing > exercise. Personally, I'm quite fond of it as is the model. But > perhaps > it's not for everyone. In fact, it provoked a lengthy debate when I > showed it on the photo.net Leica forum a few years ago. Some > thought we > were making fun of the indigent, which was certainly not among our > objectives. In fact, when we were finished, we drank a bit more beer > with some of the trailer park residents. But that's another story:-). > Thanks for looking. > Paul > On Mar 3, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >> Hmm. Well, I think my problem here is that the set concentrates too >> strongly on the model and not enough on the context of the >> surroundings. That lends them all a feeling of being posed, rather >> than being a characterization of trailer park life. >> >> Of the set, first >> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5670679 >> and then, a little less strongly, >> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5670828 >> make the transition into "reality" best for my eye. >> >> Godfrey >> >> On Mar 3, 2007, at 7:53 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >>> Hi Godders, >>> I've posted eight from the series: >>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=701586 >>> >>> >>> On Mar 3, 2007, at 10:45 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >>> >>>> Unfortunately, not for me. Standing alone, it appears a staged >>>> photograph emulating a young person faking a dissipated >>>> lifestyle. It >>>> does not seem a real situation. If there's some broader context >>>> to it >>>> that has a relation to real life I'd have to see more photos to >>>> establish the context. >>>> >>>> G >>>> >>>> On Mar 3, 2007, at 12:37 AM, Bob W wrote: >>>> >>>>> Godfrey, >>>>> >>>>> surely the context is all there in the material evidence - trailer >>>>> park, fake leopard skin, Budweiser, cigarettes, rivets. That >>>>> ain't a >>>>> photograph, that's anthropology. >>>>> >>>>>> Hadnt gotten to this one yet, Paul. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's not particularly appealing to me as a standalone photo, it >>>>>> belongs as part of a set to have some context. >>>>>> >>>>>> Technically, it's nicely done although the rendering lacks >>>>>> some sparkle. >>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5667450&size=md -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
