Light modifiers are bounce cards, diffusers, umbrellas, light spheres,
etc.  Where I could imagine the problem is that the pre-flash systems
only send out a very small pop to determine exposure.  The situation
becomes somewhat like when you try to meter past the capability of the
meter - like old stop down - so the pre-flash is small and the light
modifier cuts 3 stops of light and the little pop didn't put out 3
stops to begin with.  Now the reading would be incorrect and the main
flash pop would be too strong.  Not saying it would always happen, but
I could imagine problems with some kinds of modifiers - especially the
stronger diffusers.

In some situations, taking a shot and then looking at the histogram
would work well.  In wedding photography, that would mostly not work -
you can't afford a test shot most of the time.

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Best regards,
Bruce


Monday, March 5, 2007, 9:48:31 AM, you wrote:

GD> Not sure what you mean by "light modifiers" and how they would be any
GD> different when using something that reads a P-TTL pre-flash and  
GD> something that reads the flash at exposure time.

GD> I've had several dedicated TTL flash systems in the past. They had an
GD> advantage when doing macro work or using filters as I had to do less
GD> thinking about how to apply compensation for the light loss. But only
GD> up to a point ... and that was with film. With digital preview, any
GD> such situation is easily evaluated without even making an exposure. I
GD> suspect that digital preview would have been a wonder when I was  
GD> using film SLRs... instant exposure feedback!!! for nothing!!! That's
GD> what we used to waste hundreds of dollars on with polaroids ... :-)

GD> Godfrey

GD> On Mar 5, 2007, at 8:56 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

>> My experience is somewhat similar, even though I do quite a bit of
>> flash photography at weddings and events.  If I am just doing daylight
>> fill, then the AF360FGZ or AF540FGZ work very well as they can be
>> dialed for compensation and support hi speed synch.  Basically just
>> dial in the amount of fill you want on the flash and start shooting
>> just as if the flash wasn't there.
>>
>> When the flash is the primary light source, things change quite a bit.
>> TTL or P-TTL on my *istD were fairly inconsistent.  Not that I
>> couldn't get a usable image, but that I couldn't get consistent
>> exposure - usually underexposed.  Since getting the K10D, I have shot
>> two weddings using the AF400T in auto mode and have gotten a much
>> better exposure overall and fairly consistent.  I do kind of wonder
>> how well the AF540FGZ would do in comparison.
>>
>> There is one benefit to the TTL method, although I don't know how well
>> the P-TTL would actually work - that is when using light modifiers -
>> especially strong ones - the theory is that the light hitting the
>> sensor is measured for the exposure.  But some of the light modifiers
>> can eat up 2-3 stops of light.  Since the P-TTL is a quicker, weaker
>> flash, I could see how it might get misread.  Can't say that I have
>> really experimented enough to know but I could see some problems.





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