Ken, That's all nothing more than a big load of condescending bullshit. You're being pissy and picking a fight because you think I meant to offend your delicate sensibilities. I didn't, get over it. My comment was not directed at you specifically, and it wasn't even a response to your post. If you choose to go whispering amongst your 'good friends' about me, or anyone else, all you're doing is acting like a pouty teenager who's been told that they're stupid.
Photography is important to me, it's not just a passing fancy that I dally in to pass the time. It sounds like it is just that to you. I'll say what I think about something that's important to me. Otherwise, what waste my time on a discussion forum? - If I have a problem with what you have to say, I'll say it direct and to your face. I won't snigger and whisper about you behind your back with other people who are "my friends". - If you take issue with something I say, show a little courage and say what the problem is straight out. You won't offend my delicate sensibilities. - If you don't want to talk to me, don't: Filter my emails to the trash, just like I filter others on this list who act like jerks IMO. - Nothing I'm saying is intended to offend you, unless you want to make condescending insinuations about my "attitude" or "air of pompousness" or other such petulant malarkey. Then I'll tell you to go fuck off. And BTW: If I discover that you're speaking of me behind my back in a manner that suggests libel or slander, I'll have my attorney contact you to resolve that. G Begin forwarded message: > From: "K.Takeshita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: March 8, 2007 9:14:07 PM PST > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: New Sony > Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > > On 3/08/07 10:13 PM, "Godfrey DiGiorgi", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I don't give a damn what Sony's new pro DSLR looks like. It looks >> like a camera to me. A Pentax 645 looks like an ungainly box with a >> pipe on the front and a handle. A Hasselblad is another fugly box >> with a pipe stuck on it. The fact that those two are superb cameras >> is what's important. These are my opinions. I don't know what Sony's >> new box is yet. I see no reason to disparage it by calling it ugly. > > I knew this irritated you :-). But strange! > >> What's in it? how does it perform? how much will it cost? what is the >> quality of the lenses available for it? ... These are questions I'm >> interested in the answers to. > > As I said, you are not the only person who wants to know these. > Today was > just the first day of PMA. There are already many info coming out > under the > table at least in Japan, and soon they will be here. But as > somebody else > said, I would not put too much speculations on non-Pentax subjects > littering > this list. The only reason why I raised the Sony matter was that > there has > been a persistent rumour about their flagship being a FF sensor > with 20MP > etc, which I thought might have some bearing on those who are > wishing Pentax > FF. But loom at your questions. We were just joking around the > loom of > their mockup as everybody else in the world was doing. Some of > their posts > were downright funny. But that does not mean that people have > interest only > on the ugliness and not other more important questions. As I said, > I will > buy an ugly camera in a heartbeat if it gives me what I want. But > don't > even think that people who were joking around one subject do not have > questions/interests in other point. That was my point. And I felt > there > has been a pattern of some pompousness when you start trying to > disparage > somebody else's discussions. As I pointed out much earlier, your > mentality > in the same tone is when you suddenly crop up, blaming somebody else's > thread being a waste of time and you should ignore it. As I said > at that > time, in defense of somebody else, I thought it was rude/intrusive > and told > you that if you think certain thread is stupid and waste of time > and wish to > ignore it, do so quietly without telling the world that you should > ignore > it. > >> If you want to discuss beautiful toys, by all means, but don't make >> insinuations about my opinions. I didn't opine that you were an idiot >> for considering it ugly. > > I don't care about the beautiful toys although I appreciate beautiful > craftsmanship. This comment alone has another underlying tone. > And why do you think I made insinuations about your opinion. It > was not at > all about your opinion, but your attitude, and I tried to be subtle > about it > but you made this into your opinion vs my opinion. I "never" > insinuate > others' opinion. Did you ever see me doing so? I was only trying > to subtly > communicate with you on "underlying' tone of your post and your habit. > And when I said something not so nice about someone, I always try > to balance > it by saying something nice such as you have been helpful in many > areas, in > a hope you will understand there was nothing personal. > > This is enough. I am tired of this. I know I should not have > raised this > and wanted and hoping that this won't come to this, but since you > challenged > it.... > > Like I said, take it easy. To me, this is just another hobby list, > and it > is in fact stupid to get emotional and personal. This is not a > life or > death matter and I have no desire to continue any more. > > Ken Begin forwarded message: > From: "K.Takeshita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: March 8, 2007 8:46:44 PM PST > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: New Sony > Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > > On 3/08/07 10:13 PM, "Godfrey DiGiorgi", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Then what *IS* the point, Ken? You want me to relax and yet you >> continue to insinuate that there is something wrong with my voicing >> my opinion. If you're accusing me of something, it would be nice to >> know right up front what it is. Otherwise, cut out the BS. > > Godfrey, I try not to dig in too deep into this, for your own sake, > but > since you asked. > Perhaps, I should send this off list but since you challenged in > public. > BTW, I am in no mood to pick a fight with anybody. > > I and some others have been feeling that there has been an > underlying tone > in some of your posts. I do not go deep into this simple yet > stupid matter. > But you tend to try to shut down perfectly legitimate discussion, by > suddenly cropping up, and saying things as if the discussion is > stupid and > the camera is just a tool etc etc. Fine, you are right. But there is > always touch of air of arrogance and pompousness in them. Am I the > only one > who feels so? Apparently not. > > I don;t care whether certain things look ugly or not, and anyone can > participate in the discussion. And actually, this Sony teasing is > just > that, teasing and nothing to get serious about it. Everybody is > doing it, > in many other forums here or in Japan. > But that's not the point at all. Who cares! > > If you want to know more, I can say more but I do not want, as I do > not want > to get personal with anybody. Why do I have to drain my emotion in > a mere > internet forum about cameras? I have so many better things to do. > Plus, in this list, there are many hobbyists and for them, > photography is > just one way of relaxing, not something to get emotional about it. > Just be humble and be happy. > > Challenging this to the end won't make anybody happier. If you > wish to > battle it out, which I think you are smart enough not to, please > bring it > off list so that we do not make other people annoyed. > > Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
